I have tried to complain before

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[Bravo]

You are ignoring the fact tha Admin has been the victim of a sustained assault via email etc for quite a long time from a representative of your forum.  Admin is only human and can only take so much, so I think it would be expecting a little too much for him to step in to your forums defence!

He has already stated that he has sent a message to this mock forum that it is probably time to put a line under it and still you are expecting more.

I understand how it could be upsetting for you, as you are somewhat caught in the middle of a terrible situation, but you must try and see things from other people's point of view.
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If this is not in anyway a complaint by proxy from Clive, then why does it seem to be largely about him?

I do not feel the need to trawl the email archives for all the empty threats we have had from Clive, and I find it hard to believe that his associate do not know how he behaves.

I also believe regulars here will trust me on that one.

You can either let it drop or give us evidence we can act on. If you choose to do neither then I reserve my right to reply to your posts.
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[pixie]

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None of your complaint showed any evidence of an attack on your forum.

All you posted were links that mocked Clive and his associates on one of his forums. Which as I have said cuts little ice with me.

So there is no legitimate complaint here to act on.
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[pixie]

I have never mentioned an attack on my forum.

I have mentioned personal attacks against myself and other carers though.

I really give up here as I have already stated.

I have made a legitimate complaint and I am the person in the wrong.

I am sorry but you are so way off here but there is so little point in me wasting what precious energy I have by arguing with you.

This is your forum and you have every right to do whatever you want regardless of anyone elses feelings or complaints.

I have stated before that I am leaving it at that but obviously you seem to want to carry it on.

Please let this drop now and move on with your life. I'm sure you have better things to do than spend all day here arguing with someone who is alledgedly abusive a bully and a liar.
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You have done little to establish that you are not just a proxy for a known bully, and have provided nothing but your own word as evidence.

That does not make for a legitimate complaint.
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[pixie]

You seem insistent that I am not acting on my own behalf.

I have a mind of my own and when I decided to complain

it was my decision alone.

Clive is not even aware of this complaint.

The owner of the "hate site" has accused me in the past of taking orders from Clive

so that makes it appear to me that you are taking instruction from him.

Can you please provide me with your line managers contact details as this has gone far

enough.

If anyone is being abusive then that is you and I am not prepared to be accussed and abused with no evidence whatsoever.

1) I am not Clive.
2) I am not acting on instructions from Clive or anyone.
3) I have closed my forum down. http://carersforum.myfineforum.org/
because you host a "hate site".

Moderated: 1
link removed

5) Clive is not a member of either of these forums.
6) I am not a bully
7) I am not being abusinve.
8 ) I am not a liar.

I make a legitamate complaint and I am accused of all these things.

What a way for a complany to operate.

Please provide the details of your higher management/line manage/supervisor so that I can take this further as I am not prepared to be treated in this way.
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For someone with no energy to pursue with, you sure are making a lot of posts!

Your word alone as I have made plain counts for little, you are tainted by association. If you don't like that then don't associate with known bullies.

If you provide evidence it will be acted on, if not then we will continue to go around in circles.

There is no one else you can complain to.
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[pixie]

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No one has said any lies about you, merely opinions.

A link to a forum which is not Clive's says nothing to disprove an association that was made evident by the links originally posted as evidence.

No other evidence has been provided despite me continually asking.

I am not about to shut anyone forum down because someone says I should without providing evidence.
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[Excalibur]

All of the members of OKcarers have been the victims of sustained and extreme forms of harassment by Clive who is in turn encouraged by the four other members remaining on his ukcarers forum, one of whom is Pixie.

OKcarers exists to provide a mutual support network, share information, co-ordinate efforts to stop the bullying, let off steam and make fun of the Trolls in an attempt to diminish their ability to dominate debates. Pixie's real name is not mentioned on OKcarers, no personal information about her has ever been shared on the open or closed boards, but we are all baffled why she would support a man who routinely threatens to inform my local social services that my disabled son is at risk, (he isn't) and has already written several times to my wife and colleagues for no other reason than to bully me into submission. As the parent of a disabled child herself, it beggars belief that she can support a troll like Clive who will stop at nothing to get his own way.

Pixie is a member of that site and is therefore an apologist for Clive. The material on Clive's own site is grossly offensive, including personal and sensitive information, photos, copyright material and falsehoods about named individuals. It has been taken out several times, and will probably be taken out again. If she can remain a member of that forum then she should not be surprised if she is treated somewhat frostily whenever she appears above the parapet on any public forums such as this one.

However, as the editor of OKcarers, I have voluntarily decided to close the remaining open part of the forum to non-members for the moment, as whilst none of the content is in breach of the TACs I agree that the content might be perceived as tasteless or offensive by people unaware of the background to this struggle. I trust that Pixie will use what influence she may have as a mod on Clive's Board to remove all personal and offensive material and names, as in my view and that of OKcarers members the ukcarers site is a disgrace to the carers movement.

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Thank you for that post. I will say again publically what I have said to you privately, that I no longer think your forum serves a constructive purpose. But it is not the role of myff to shut down forums simply because we don't think they are doing any good.

If you stay within the terms and conditions your forum will remain open.
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[pixie]

http://okcarers.blogspot.com/search/label/LYNNE%20ACKERS%20Pixie

This link shows the sort of harrasment that I am having to endure because I complained about a site that attacks carers.

This is my photo and my real name alongside my username.
This story was covered by the BBC and the photo is my property. It is also my facebook photo which was what the BBC asked for.

Please understand this is my family, my children and grandchildren being attacked.
They are disabled so discrimination is high up on my list of words to use.
We have also just had a death of my father in law so now also care for my mother in law as she is disabled.

I have not attacked anyone. I have voiced an opinion but not in any way maliciously as I believe that disagreeing with someone can be done in a respectable manner without resorting to personal attacks.

This is a personal attack on myself and my family and it is being carried out by the owners and members of the Hate site.

But I know you won't do anything and I also know that I will be yet again accused of emotional blackmail, guilty by association etc.

I do like to think that most people are good so I live in hope that you will do something.
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That content is not even on one of our forums.

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