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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: Forum complaint

I would like to lodge a complaint against Clunk, an ex-member of my forum www.calnetalk.com who wrote this on his chippenham forum: I was banned From the Calne forum. www.calnetalk.com Why? Because I voiced an opinion. They often say that anyone can have their say, but if the group at the top don't like it, then you get banned. 'Local lass' also has the account 'Top Dog'. Starts her own topics with one account, and continues it with another. I was banned for posting the following. Clunk wrote: Twice now I have had a post deleted from here. First time it was deleted and no reason given. Second time, I got a PM from topdog saying Top Dog wrote: Clunk,what was that post on about in the photo section? I have just deleted it. If there was a post yesterday i never deleted it as i wasnt about . but with regard to the photo comps. green wizard is no longer on here she got to busy with her own forum. With regard to the multible voting if that was rigged dont you think we would have won every time Confused Then I saw this in the Moderator section. Top Dog wrote: i put a posting up in the photo section asking if we should do the photo comps again. clunks first post put is it going to be rigged again? so that was deleted his second post was on about how where greenwizard/pipet was and that it was all rigged as it was done by people who had multible votes. so that got deleted and i sent him a pm saying that if it was rigged dont you think we would have won every time Rolling Eyes im not about today so can you please keep a eye on it So topdog/locallass deleted it then lied to me. Are these really the type of people you want to run this forum? These people are a close group of inbred friends who do not like outsiders on the forum. A new guy called Geddi has already had several posts deleted because of his extremist views. But you can say what you like though........ Rolling Eyes The post is found here: http://chippenham.myfreeforum.org/I_been_banned__about70.html This sort of thing should not be allowed on a public forum, especially using slanderous language. You'll also notice that this person somehow managed to get into our moderators section which is hidden from normal members view and has cut and pasted a section which he has also posted onto his forum. This is not the responsible attitude of a forum admin. This person was banned earlier today for continually being a nuisance and posting stupid things.

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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject:

If he got into a moderator only section then: 1. The permissions weren't set up right; or 2. He had access to a moderators account, either by a poor password, or he was given it; or 3. He has permission to use that forum (either in error or not). As to the rest of it, I don't really see anything actionable persee _________________ CG Arts for free Banners, headers, logo's, signatures and avatars.

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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject:

Bravo wrote:

If he got into a moderator only section then:

1. The permissions weren't set up right; or
2. He had access to a moderators account, either by a poor password, or he was given it; or
3. He has permission to use that forum (either in error or not).

As to the rest of it, I don't really see anything actionable persee

When challenged about how he got into the moderator forum his reply was "Oh and before anyone asks, I did not hack the site. There is a well known permission bug on the myf forums". You would obviously know more about this than me. The permissions were all set up correctly and no other mods have had their accounts tampered with.

As for the rest of it not being actionable, am I right in now thinking that it is perfectly ok to publically slag of another forum and it's admin/moderator team?

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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject:

1. there is no permission bug, the settings where not made correct. 2. As for the rest of it , i see nothing again the terms and conditions to warrant a complaint. _________________

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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:08 pm Post subject:

Firstly, I was not challenged ever about how I got access to the moderator section. No one ever asked me.
Secondly, as I have my own MFF, I checked I did not break any rules before posting.

The forum from which I was banned is as bent as a 3 pound note.
The various members of 'the in crowd' have various accounts. Top Dog - Local Lass, GreenWizzard - Pipet and TheOrganGrinder - Kathy27. They do not like others to know this which leads me to suspect that because so many people have given up on how poorly the forum is run, that they create these accounts to make themselves look busy. Whenever I have mentioned anything to do with multiple accounts and how stupid and pointless a second account is (except for testing purposes) I get the posts deleted. After quoting 'TopDog' and when she said 'You can post anything in here' I commented 'Unless the admin disagree with your opinion, then they get deleted'.
In my mind, the whole point of a forum is for discussion. When you are not allowed to voice an opinion, then it just becomes the admins blog.

It also appears that 'Graham The Builder' must follow these same practises elsewhere, as I received the following PM on the Chippenham forum.

XXXXXX wrote:

hello mate take no notice of him and his antics,he and a few of his chumms are known for it. he is doing worse on another site himself.he is a member on my forum luckily he hasn't dared sss with me.
what is this password for getting onto an admin page? it would be interesting to have a look around gtb's other forum 'greenwelliesbalertwine'.
regards.

So obviously, it is not just me that think's these people should change thier attitude on running a forum.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject:

Oh, and the Chippenham forum is not mine. _________________ www.darkplaces.co.uk

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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject:

How they choose to run a forum is their own business so long as it does not contravene the Terms and Conditions of MFF.

It's quite simple, you don't like their forum, you don't go on it. Starting a crusade on how you think they should be running a forum is both time consuming and pointless. The answer would be to start your own forum, not bringing petty disputes to this forum.

Read this:

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Please read this link, it epxlains our terms and conditions.

http://www.myfreeforum.org/index....task=view&id=22&Itemid=32

If you want to report a forum, then please do it in this forum:

http://forum.myfreeforum.org/forum15.php

Do not use a private message!

If you are reporting a forum, then we assume you have evidence to support the report, in the form of links, names, ip addresses etc.

You *MUST* post the evidence, we cannot act on being told a forum is in breach of the conditions without links to where and why.

Keep it clear and keep it simple. At least one report of a claimed violation ended up falling on death ears, when no one could clearly decypher from pages of rambling just what the issue was and where the blame was

We want to and frequently do act very quickly on reports, but equally we have to defend our forums from unfair attacks. So for example it is not enough to report spamming by a forum admin on another forum, without supporting evidence that it really is that person doing the spamming.
However in all such cases, between the ip address and the fact that someone who spams in one place is probably spamming elsewhere, a bit of patience does result in action being possible.

Note that if it is your forum that is breaching the conditions, then we will engage in a dialog if the issue is in the realms of "reasonable debate". We know there are grey areas especially in the area of promoting a forum and that members and admins can get over enthusiastic at times. But there is quite a clear line between the kind of spamming that will get corrective action and spamming that is systematically abusing other peoples forums. Cross the line and your forum will be suspended and then deleted.

Please note that inter forum squabbles, bad behavior by admins and mods, or even some odd individual threads that contain hateful material are not grounds for a complaint. If you don't like behavior on a forum, then the best thing to do is to leave that forum. We will not micro manage forums or play referee in disputes.

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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject:

I am locking this. This is not the place for inter forum squabbles, it is only here for people to raise genuine T&C issues. By and large wherever the fault may lie complaints about bans and badly run forums are just not relevant to the T&Cs. _________________ Family Friendly Shareware \| \| Web Design/Services \| Free Forums