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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:09 pm Post subject: SEO for beginners

Here's some tips and info on SEO for the beginner: hUH...What's a Page Ranking(PR)??? PageRank is a score given by Google to each web page (not site) on a 0-10 logarithmic scale that is used as one (amongst many others) of the parameters for building the Search Engine Results Pages (SERPs). This score is calculated using an incremental mathematical agorithm What can I do to improve my PR? Get more links to your site! The more links you get, from pages with PR as high as possible, and with as less on-page links as possible, the higher your PR will get You can get links to your site by submitting it to directories , exchanging links with other webmasters, or by having a quality site and promoting it a little bit so that people naturally link to you Where can I find people to exchange links with? To be able to exchange links, you'll need a links section Go to sites prefarably related to your topic, and introduce your site, why it is relevant to their own topic, then suggest a link exchange. You may be much more successful if you visit sites that don't have themselves a forum for their visitors to discuss. You may even offer them a dedicated area in your forum if they seem to get high traffic. What should I not do for SEO? Do not go to link farms,(places with PR O or 1, do not use blind link exchange services, do not use spam techniques (hidden text, cloaking pages etc.etc.). forumofthesaxes.myfreeforum.org Last edited by David on Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:18 am; edited 1 time in total

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject:

Quality content counts as well. Written with an eye to the keywords involved in the subject. If you are a forum that specialises in green widgets, then writing a sticky post at the top a forum that talks about green widgets, using the words green widgets and other keyword associated with green widgets, and the lock the post so no one can dilute the green widget content, then someone looking for green widgets with a search engine is more likely to find their green widget information on your green widget forum.... Ok you can get penalised for over egging it But I really would recommend a few high quality sticky posts. My hugely popular forum: http://forum.downsizer.net/ actually has 7000 topics and almost 4000 pages stashed in google! which is one hell of a proportion of the perhaps 12000+ pages of the forum. When starting out you have it tougher. A fanstatic bit on info on page 3 of a thread posted 2 months ago, probably is not going to be googled! You need to look to concentrating good content on prime pages. _________________ Family Friendly Shareware \| \| Web Design/Services \| Free Forums forum.myfreeforum.org

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject:

So for it to get on google (for e.g.) you need lots of posts and topics

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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:35 pm Post subject:

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So for it to get on google (for e.g.) you need lots of posts and topics

Not really, if you want SEO in a nut shell it's:

"links, good content, keyword optimisation"

Quantity helps, but Quality is better.
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:04 pm Post subject:

as far as i know my forum hasn't even shown up on google. i only have 5 members, does that make a difference?

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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:07 pm Post subject:

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as far as i know my forum hasn't even shown up on google.

i only have 5 members, does that make a difference?

google will not care about members.
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:56 pm Post subject:

I've used all of my techniques, but my PR is still very low. It does take time.

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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:58 pm Post subject:

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Mn'M wrote:

as far as i know my forum hasn't even shown up on google.

i only have 5 members, does that make a difference?

google will not care about members.

Are you sure that the number of members doesn't have an effect on it's PR?

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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: SEO for beginners

David wrote:

What can I do to improve my PR?

and with as less on-page links as possible, the higher your PR will get

Where can I put links if they're not on a page?

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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject:

David wrote:

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Mn'M wrote:

as far as i know my forum hasn't even shown up on google.

i only have 5 members, does that make a difference?

google will not care about members.

Are you sure that the number of members doesn't have an effect on it's PR?

Not directly. If of course your members are posting links it will help.

Time is also a big big factor. You can be talking the better part of a year!
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:52 pm Post subject:

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David wrote:

admin wrote:

Mn'M wrote:

as far as i know my forum hasn't even shown up on google.

i only have 5 members, does that make a difference?

google will not care about members.

Are you sure that the number of members doesn't have an effect on it's PR?

Not directly. If of course your members are posting links it will help.

Time is also a big big factor. You can be talking the better part of a year!

You mean like links in a sig?

One of my members is an administrator on th largest saxophone forum on the web(10000+ members) He has a link to that forum in his sig. Does that help my forum's PR?

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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:07 pm Post subject:

No. It is incoming links not outgoing ones you need. _________________ Family Friendly Shareware \| \| Web Design/Services \| Free Forums forum.myfreeforum.org

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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:11 pm Post subject:

admin wrote:

Quality content counts as well. Written with an eye to the keywords involved in the subject.

If you are a forum that specialises in green widgets, then writing a sticky post at the top a forum that talks about green widgets, using the words green widgets and other keyword associated with green widgets, and the lock the post so no one can dilute the green widget content, then someone looking for green widgets with a search engine is more likely to find their green widget information on your green widget forum....

Ok you can get penalised for over egging it

But I really would recommend a few high quality sticky posts.

My hugely popular forum:

http://forum.downsizer.net/

actually has 7000 topics and almost 4000 pages stashed in google! which is one hell of a proportion of the perhaps 12000+ pages of the forum. When starting out you have it tougher. A fanstatic bit on info on page 3 of a thread posted 2 months ago, probably is not going to be googled! You need to look to concentrating good content on prime pages.

Prettu impressive forum for a year old. Can I stick a popular topic that talks about my forum's main subject? Woulkd that help? Or should I just make my own and lock it?

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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:39 pm Post subject:

David wrote:

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Prettu impressive forum for a year old. Can I stick a popular topic that talks about my forum's main subject? Woulkd that help? Or should I just make my own and lock it?

Sticking is good, construction and locking is better.
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:17 am Post subject:

So like make a category dedicated to links, and then post links to other forums?