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jdwolfe Pupil

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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:17 am Post subject: |
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i guess i was a little too,
and that is your opinion about Darth Blight, but i think he is a good debator.
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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ahhh yea scurage its omega leader thks for unbanning me but my ip adress and my name are banned still soooooooooo yea.
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jdwolfe Pupil

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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Anonymous wrote: | | ahhh yea scurage its omega leader thks for unbanning me but my ip adress and my name are banned still soooooooooo yea. | that's no fair _________________ http://pilotseat.myfreeforum.org
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Scourge Newbie

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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:35 am Post subject: |
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I'm posting enough here, I figured I should make an account...
At any rate, while the "legal issue" which is being used is copyright, the actual issue is much more serious, at least for someone involved in post-graduate academia - that of plagerism.
The picture in the upper left of your forum is now the default for the board style, but last time, when I complained here, it was a copy of the one in the upper left corner of our forum, which I made. It didn't take me long and didn't take much effort, but I made it for our site, and in trying to duplicate our site, you used both the material generously provided by the folks here at myfreeforum.org, and material that I and others made for our site. You still have almost exact duplicates of my announcement posts on your board:
http://thedarksithlord.myfreeforum.org/ftopic113.php
http://thedarksithlord.myfreeforum.org/ftopic4.php
Really, the posts don't even make any sense in the context of your site - for example, it's clear that you weren't fielding questions about a site change all weekend, to prompt you to put up the "Gaining Ranks" announcement.
Neither I, nor anyone who has been putting time and effort into our Sith Lords site, really cares if your site is up - as long as it is your site, and not just a copy of ours. If you're going to make a site, make it your own. If you don't stop ripping off material from our site, I will continue to complain to the administrative staff of myfreeforum.org until they just ban you completely.
Oh, and incidentally, banning your email and IP based on abusive posts on our board is completely fair. I've been an admin on different kinds of internet groups for too long to put up with much of that behavior for long - and everything I've seen from either of you only reinforces the validity of that decision.
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the post, it strikes me your conduct has shown the utmost patience with people who have been given every opportunity to stop ripping off your forum.
You would have every right to demand instant suspension, but I assume from the tone of your post you are willing to give them one last chance?
But I am sure you and us have pretty much had enough of this senseless behaviour.
I am inclined to give them 24 hours to remove the posts. If they do not do so, then it will not be another suspension, but they will be removed from the system with no chance to come back. _________________
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Scourge Newbie

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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:38 am Post subject: |
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I wasn't really offering anything, just explaining myself - I didn't think I was in any position to demand anything, I'm taking advantage of a free service you're offering.
No matter how quickly or harshly you suspend or ban them from your site, you will not hear a complaint out of me. Just because I express myself politely and understand my position on your site, doesn't mean I'm feeling particularly gracious towards them.
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| Scourge wrote: | | I didn't think I was in any position to demand anything, I'm taking advantage of a free service you're offering. |
Legally you can't demand anything from is as the copyright dispute is between you and them.
But we try and operate by an ethical standard, and you have clearly demonstrated your case, therefore you can demand we live up the our claim to operate ethically! _________________
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jdwolfe Pupil

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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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i was reffering to letting omega leader back on but i figured that you didn't
also, i just really want to say i'm sorry for the plagerising. i was wondering if you could sign up for my site so you can help me rephrase those posts. i'm not so good with rephrasing. also, you know what they say. "Imitation is the most sincerest type of flattery" _________________ http://pilotseat.myfreeforum.org
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| jdwolfe wrote: | i was reffering to letting omega leader back on but i figured that you didn't
also, i just really want to say i'm sorry for the plagerising. i was wondering if you could sign up for my site so you can help me rephrase those posts. i'm not so good with rephrasing. also, you know what they say. "Imitation is the most sincerest type of flattery" |
Why should he help? Just get rid of the posts as they are a rip off! _________________
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: |
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I am also on the site from which Scourge is also a member, and I agree with Scourge whole-heartedly. I put in a lot of effort to find good, decent pictures to be used as rank-pictures, and then I find they just copied them for their forum!
Why, jdwolfe, should we help you? If you want to effectively start your own forum, which in its most basic form is plaguerism, as the url is ours minus the S, then you need to prove to future users that you are mature enough to come up with your own material.
As a good start, might I suggest completely starting again, with a new url, one which doesn't blatantly rip-off ours, and none of our material? Then, you can do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't resemble our own material, which we have put long hours into, and that you've copied in a matter of minutes.
If you are truly sorry for what you have done, and are jealous of our site, why not just join it, and work your way up the ranks? In starting your own site, you are going to attract little to no members, as ours is in conjunction with the Jedi forum, which, for some obscure reason, picks up a lot of new members, some of which want to join our site.
This means it will really be a two-man site, which will be quite boring, and worse then taking the time to work your way up the ranks on a good, fun forum.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| jdwolfe wrote: | | i just really want to say i'm sorry for the plagerising. |
At most, you're sorry that you were caught for plagerism.
| jdwolfe wrote: | | i was wondering if you could sign up for my site so you can help me rephrase those posts. |
Do you have any semblance of understanding for what I have been saying throughout this thread?
| jdwolfe wrote: | | you know what they say. "Imitation is the most sincerest type of flattery" |
Besides the lack of grammar in your misquote, you fail to understand that imitation is when you are basing a new work on someone else's existing work in a way that shows the source of your inspiration, while plagerism is stealing someone else's work and passing it off as your own.
Now then, I was wondering if the Admin could use his abilities to check the site. They currently have made every forum except for the Welcome forum hidden. The Welcome forum now has this post:
http://thedarksithlord.myfreeforum.org/ftopic113.php
It is moderately changed enough that it's only about two-thirds the same, which is usually all that's needed from a legal perspective. However, I have a definite feeling that everything else they're doing has the same tone, just hidden to those without an account.
For example, I would have to make an account and login to check this post:
http://thedarksithlord.myfreeforum.org/ftopic4.php
Has it changed at all? Or did they just hide it?
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Again, my thanks for the quick and well-reasoned response in this entire matter.
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