Rebels complaint

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[Minious]

Rebels considers this matter closed. Good luck with future endeavours.

[lindajean777]

Now there's a vagrant tag above my avatar on rebels. What it has been all along. Just shaking my head.

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[lindajean777]

Unfortunately however, it is not your opinion that counts. If I should feel like 'whining' I will. Whining as I blog across the Star Wars Galaxy. Do you think I don't know that people only 'give a toss' about themselves. I already stated it. My intention is to affect the membership of Rebels. So that new members won't join. Very simple. I don't want people to feel bad for me. I want them to think to themselves "Dang, maybe I'd better not join that rp forum. I'll join a different one. I'd feel rotten if someone compared me to Hitler."  If I see their membership get flushed, I'll call it a good day.

And if they were to go under, that would be even better in my consideration. I love what we Americans call 'hard ball in the fast lane' a lot.  They gave me a reason. Now I pour it on.

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[admin (no pm's please)]

I am locking this, there is nothing constructive being added any more.

It will be interesting to see whether she has the integrity to link her smear campaign to either the rebels thread or the complaints thread? I doubt it as that would show things in a rather different light.
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[admin (no pm's please)]

Actually I cannot resist a comment, so have unlocked.

Here we have had an open debate, where she has been free to put her case.

On her blog, not only does she not link to where people can see the original thread and the complaint, but she has blocked any comment being made on her rant.

We just about always insist complaints are aired in the open, so a fair debate can be had, and this lets our members judge the decisions we make.

It was following such an incident where Bravo chose to disagree with my stance on a forum complaint and to coherently argue a contrary position that I decided Bravo should get a moderator position here. We have nothing to fear from righteous disagreement.

Some T&C cases are rightly contentious and I don't expect everyone to agree with our rulings all the time. But I do believe what we decide is always good enough for us not to need to hide it behind close doors or block a reasonable level of debate.

We will never retreat from the core position that hate sites/illegality and some other issues are what we should deal with, but that the general running of a forum needs to be left to the forum owner
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[lindajean777]

If that is your position, then it is. I might not agree with it and that is my right. Why should I allow comments on my blog? My blog is what I think, not what everyone else thinks.

There was no reasonable debate on Rebels and it is my turn not to allow it either. Sometimes 'turnabout if fair play'. If you went over everything as I posted on my blog Minious has changed his story even on here repeatedly. First it was because I complained. Then it was that it had been coming for a while. Then suddenly Rive suspected I was a troll and was looking into it. Oh my. My story however has been absolutely consistant even to admitting that I retaliated in the name-calling. All they have offered is excuses for their bad behavior and ever shifting word games.

Most experts would tell you, that the person telling the consistant story is the truthful one. But you can decide that for yourself. But when it comes to my blog, allowing comments, why should I give them any courtesies that they don't give to other people? When they drive people from their debates with ridicule (As they did at least one person besides me-and last evening I heard some more commentary) isn't that what they are doing? Silencing anyone who disagrees with them?  You can believe what you want. But from your commentary above is what they do also not a form of hate? Just because the symbols of hate aren't in their images, doesn't mean it isn't so.

So if MYFF's position is it isn't up to you, and no one seems to think a government agency won't act, then why isn't a taste of their own medicine in order?

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You don't seem to see the fundermental differences between a "hate site" and having some threads on a forum that in your view (though evidentially not everyones view) are badly moderated with some hateful comments in them.

The issues are poles apart. Anyone can scan our T&C threads in this forum to see that "hate sites" get nailed instantly.

I still think you are being hypocritical in smearing us and the rebels forum without any link or ability to comment.
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[lindajean777]

Actually I personally don't believe that the two situations are that far apart. One is on a smaller scale. That is a difference in perception. Is the result not the same?

I was onsite when Rive Caedo was deleting and editing posts after he knew I had complained. If he didn't think that he had anything to worry about, why do that?

[Full Tilt Boogie]

Admin mate, you really have done enough here, you only dignify her meaningless rants by replying any mire. She's now set off on a round-the-houses victim trawl, and frankly there's nothing of worth to gained from anymore exchange with her. The readers here know who the PITA is here, and it aint MyFF.

Lock the thread and just leave her to wither on the vine as she posts to herself - her natural (and plainly most interested) audience.

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[lindajean777]

But you were seeking to have a site that was hateful shut down. So why am I wrong for doing the same?

[admin (no pm's please)]

The odd dubious thread with a frankly trivial bit of abuse does not make a hate site. I have yet to see an abortion debate that did not get a little out of hand like that, it is the nature of the beast.

You are totally lacking in any perspective, as demonstrated by your attempt to widen things out into smearing us for disagreeing with you, and in shutting down an active site with total disregard for the members there.

Have you not noticed that this is a public thread that has been read by any of our members here, and no one has stepped in to your defense. Heck one of the people defending us is actually someone I have put on moderation here so this is hardly a thread of sycophants!
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