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[Mike]

What can my forum do to get back in your good books admin?

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[admin (no pm's please)]

There are two distinctive issues here.

With a forum "owner" who is ripping off our site and slagging us off at the same time. Your forum will never be in any "good books".

Secondly and perhaps more relevant, with an owner associated with criminal fraud, it is only for the sake of your members that I would even consider continuing to host the forum, even so there can be no question of advertising appearing.

Both these problems have one cause, the question is what do you want to do about it?
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[suky]

admin i aint saying anything wrong everyone wants jimi to go tell mike to return his money back and take over all the forum again and keep the old mods and stuff and it will be back to normal and if mikke doesnt agree to do that then you should just close hte forum donw

[Mike]

[admin (no pm's please)]

This is not about a quick buck, this is about activity that is actually criminal fraud.

So a line has been stepped over than cannot be simply dealt with like a minor infraction in a class room.

Jimi has chosen to enter the adult world, with adult sanctions.

Your choice is not about whether to get Jimi to behave, but about whether to try and reclaim your forum.
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I have just deleted another pointless addition to this thread. This is a serious issue and people will end up with their own problems if they poke in here with nothing useful to say!
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[davecov]

I feel sorry for everybody involved apart from one person and I can understand the dilemma that Admin faces. It is up to the owner to sort out their board, and Admin can't step in and overthrow a legitimate owner, just for the sake of the rest of the forum. That would set a dangerous precedent. However, in view of the illegal activities, Admin is quite within his rights to close down the forum anyway.

To my eyes, the options are thus:

- Jimi falls on his sword and passes ownership back to Mike

- the members of the forum go elsewhere

- Admin closes down the forum

The first option is the easiest, cleanest and has the least effect on the forum. The second and third options are non-starters in my view as they punish too many people. However, Admin cannot allow the present regime as it is and so it is for the members to take the first option.

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[admin (no pm's please)]

I agree 100%.

As we say time and time again in the T&C folder, bad things do happen on forums, but it is the forum owners problem. Once we start to play God and intervene for the "greater good" then every forum owner end up looking over their shoulder and not feeling that they have the real responsibility for the proper running of their forum and that their forum may be taken away on a whim.

That position is totally unacceptable to us and I am sure to 99% of people owning a forum.

Jimi should either do the right thing, or Mike should assert that there is no legal basis for Jimi owning the forum anyway. Then we can at least get things back on track.
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[McMan]

Mike, I just must say this. There is a high chance you will not gain that money. But there is also a chance that Jimi will scam you, ban you and the co-admins and run the site freely.

Just forget it man.
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[suky]

see admin that is what i am trying to say i would really like mike to take over the forum again and that way everyone is back to normal and i think that jimi might scam him abd just take over the forum but on the other hand if he wanted to do that he cpould had done that he could had done it by now

the 3 options that the other respected meber gave are good i would htink that mike is clever enough to take the first option and if he doesnt you can tell that he doesnt like his forum and all he likes is the money he will get from jimi and jimi has only payed him 150 poundsand still owes mike 850 and i doubt he wll get that from jimi as he is saying he will pay him but still hasnt payed me


also why can there just be one forum as there is aloads of ss forums and it is dum the 2 big ones are on my free forum and the 3rd largest is on vbulltien

so admin its your choice what you want to do which options you want to give to mike were just here to give you some advice not to tell you what to do as it is your company you can do anything you want

[Ben]

Suky, I am not being nasty, but you need to learn when your posts are not appreciated in a topic, we are looking for reasonable options and discussion, not spam.
One day you are going to find yourself stuck when it gets to a point where no forum wants to put up with you any longer because of the posts you make, so thats something you should consider. (Constructive posts).

And yeah, See Admins point about the members, it wouldnt be fair to just close it down as it leaves members in a position where they don't have a choice, but yeah, Mike does need to make a decission on what he is going to do. Afterall, he registered the forum, he is the true admin, it is his decission at the end of the day.

Then again, someone else a few pages back posted something about 'Moving on'. People are addicted to that forum as they have been on it for so long, if they just actually looked at some other forums, and see the quality of some of the posts and members they would see there really are, better places to be out there, the internet is a big place afterall!

(Sorry if ive made any spelling mistakes or repeated myself, had a long day and tired)

[admin (no pm's please)]

To bump this again, when does farce turn into fraud?

Swapitshop forum is still being used to prominently advertise jimis so called forums service, which I note now has 10 days of porn spam in its support forum, and its web hosting account still suspended for what appears to be unpaid bills.

Each day this goes on, the forum admins make themselves complicit in this, and lose more and more moral authority.

Any one with admin rights can remove this fraudulent advertising, which might help bring the matter to a conclusion.

The hosting deadline is the 25th October, and as it stands hosting will not be renewed. This one cannot run to the wire, promises made to sort things out given on the 24th will not save the day. If we let hosting be renewed it will have to be with confidence that things have been resolved.
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[Mike]

Well, the adverts to his hosting site have gone.
Now were totally ad free (Aside from one small ad at the bottom which gets £5/month)

What be next?
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[admin (no pm's please)]

What is jimis current position on the forum? Is he still owner and hence able to put all the stuff back on?

Please work with me on this, I need to know the unvarnished truth of what the situation is, it will do no one any favours for a conclusion to be reached based on a false view of things.
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[Mike]