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I have been making edits to The Webpage at The Lazy Lounge to mark Our Upcoming Birthday and have discovered that they look completely different in IE and FF

IE shows it perfectly as Intended but FF is awful as the images show, the Font is black rather trhan white and there are huge spaces where there should be none:

I have Included the coding I've used to create the webpage for you to see, How Do I get it to show in FF as it does in IE please?


<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<style type="text/css">
/* This is the border line & background colour round the entire page */
.bodyline {background-image: url(../bg.png) ;  background-color: #4E647F; border:15px #000044 solid; }
<body bgcolor="{T_BODY_BGCOLOR}" text="{T_BODY_TEXT}"
link="{T_BODY_LINK}" vlink="{T_BODY_VLINK}"
topmargin=0 bottommargin=0 leftmargin=0 rightmargin=0 />
<table width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10" border="0" align="center">
<tr><td class="bodyline">

<center><b><font face="Mistral" size="6" color="#000044">Don't Miss Our Very 1st Birthday Celebrations on the 20th of May !   <img src= border="0"/></font></b>  


<table width=100% border="0">


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<font size="2"><b>WebPage By Louise Hayman @ The Lazy Lounge Chat Forum</font></b>

<head><link rel="shortcut icon" href="templates/myfs_lazylounge1/images/faveicon1.ico" type="image/x-icon" />
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IE = Perfect

FF = Awful!!!!


Please Ignore My above Post - Just fixed It - I had one of my
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myff admin

I'm afraid that all I was going to do was to point you to a web page validation page.

I got hit like this at the weekend, and it took me hours to solve and was down to a html typo.

There is often no reasonable alternative than to make sure a page is mostly clear of errors before trying to figure out browser anomalies, as most such issues are down to the errors.

At least it forced me to make sure My coding was Correct.    

Would like to Say Thanks for suggesting a Web Page Validator, Have learned quite a bit from reading it.

Is It Normal though for Errors to turn up, which are part of the Original Template that I wouldn't be responsible for?

And Is it Possible to have a page that shows 100% no errors at all but still looks the way you'd like?
myff admin

There are templates with errors, in fact probably most do have errors.

For example the way the quote bbcode works in phpbb2 has an error you cannot get rid of.

Mostly errors are harmless and you should never "NEED" an error to get things looking the way you want.

I cannot thank you enough for this Tip - I am in the process of Cleaning up any errors and have managed to improve both my Coding and my knowledge so much due to this - Thank you!!!!!
myff admin

I'm really please someone is happy to be told this

It gives me a good feeling when I clear errors from a site, and I always learn a bit about the many fold web standards in the process.

Getting the Green Site Valid result is always good.

By and large people don't want to be told to make the site reasonably valid, they just want some quick fix and expect us to be smart enough to spot the one error out of 100's that is causing some strange problem. It is not a reasonable expectation

admin (no pm's please) wrote:
It gives me a good feeling when I clear errors from a site, and I always learn a bit about the many fold web standards in the process.

Getting the Green Site Valid result is always good.

It's just a shame people can't code such designs properly

Most of my designs lately go through clean with the odd symbol moan

The Kind Of errors I'm getting is as shown below, Body tag, span errors etc but as these aren't things that I have changed and were part of the Template as it was, I don't feel confident enough with my little Knowledge to change them . . .

Any That I know are My work, I have corrected.

myff admin

I find that hard to read, but the body tag is down there with a self closing /> which is wrong it should be > as body is not a self closer, as there should be a following </body> later in the code.

Have corrected that - The other one I'm getting Lots, is saying that SPAN can't be used where it is But again, That's not something I've done - It's how the template was designed!
myff admin

Quite possibly, it is a common error.

spans work with inline elements, they should not be placed around block level elements.

Something that will sort out most of your problems is drop the use of such ancient methods. Switch to proper valid XHTML and CSS, it'll take some learning at first but in the long run it'll save you a lot of time and make you a better web developer
myff admin

I would agree that setting the DOCTYPE to an xhtml variant and taking a deep breath is the way to go. It may deluge you with errors at first, but the structure is more sensible and you are then moving to the future and not the past.

Thanks for the tips But I'll be honest, I don't think my knowledge is anywhere near enough to know what I'd be doing there !!! lol Forum Index -> Web page/template Editing
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