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| lindajean777 |
Rebels complaintPLEASE ENTER THE FOLLOWING>>>>I would like to complain about the site http://rebels.myfreeforum.org Where I have been the subject of bias on the part of one of the administrator. Offensive posts have not been deleted that have called me Hitler, a murderer and other names. I was given an administrative warning for responding but no one else has been. See the following link http://rebels.myfreeforum.org/ftopic6396-0-asc-285.php Enter your myff forum url here, if the issue is on a particular part of the forum, then give a link to where the problem actually is. Do not enter your own domain name it must be the actual myff link : If you are asking a template related question, what is the name of the template: Please indicate keywords you have searched on: Now ask your question in clear English without "txt" speak>>>> |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
As we have already stated, admin bias is no grounds for complaint. | ||||||
| lindajean777 |
But I believe in the terms and conditions and I quote not deleting offensive posts in a timely manner is.
There are examples of this all over the forum, but here is one link as well as the one I posted already. http://rebels.myfreeforum.org/ftopic6407-0-asc-300.php I can supply many more links to violations if you require them. |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
Name calling on a forum does not violate our conditions, allowing it may not be good practice but it is not a conditions violation. | ||||||
| lindajean777 |
Well I am going to take my complaint to ecommerce.gov then that is beginning to regulate internet activity and include My Free Forum in the complaint.
How is name calling not offensive material and not in violation? What is considered a violation then of the above quote? |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
The word "offensive" does not even appear in our T&C.
forums that allow offensive stuff and have bad administration are best dealt with by leaving said forums. We will not micro manage such matters. |
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| lindajean777 |
That's alright. I have already filed a complaint against Rebels and My Free Forum with the Federal Trade Commission/Consumer Protection Agency for discriminatory practices. I just came from filling out the form.
I presume that they will decide the issue in a fair manner as to whether you allow discriminatory and offensive material to be posted on the sites within your domain. |
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| Daniel(u1bd2005) |
Ok, good luck with that complaint, as admin says though if he took action against something like this complaints would start rolling in, its something that admin of a particular forum should deal with not the head admin of mff. If you dont like the way in which a certain forum is being run just dont visit it, if everyone feels the same then the forum will become inactive fairly quickly. If admin closed every forum down because of little comments that are abusive towards a member then there wouldn't be anything left, i've even seen abusive posts made on the support forum and admin doesn't always delete them. You've got to remember freedom of speech too. |
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| lindajean777 |
Freedom of speech however is not absolute. It is curtailed at times, such as 'you can not cry fire in a crowded building'. That would be considered a crime and could be prosecuted.
In this case a small group of pro-life advocates go after everyone who is pro-choice. It is not just an occasional insult. It is a concerted campaign of ridicule, humiliation and name-calling. I was called less than intelligent, idiot, murderer, compared to Hitler, etc and so on. When I retaliated I was the only one given an administrative warning. The admin follows the pro-life belief. He is not fair in how he treats people. In actuality the site is supposed to be a Star Wars roleplaying site not a political site. One of the young people, Lord Invictus was under 13 and on there without a COPPA agreement. He is one of the chief offenders. There is even a posting about his age. (He just turned 13) If any of that is right, then I am just shaking my head. I am going to delete my own forum as well. I really do not feel that I can be a part of My Free Forum if you allow this kind of activity to go on. I know of at least one other young person who left there due to being humiliated. It is a form of cyber-bullying and no expert will tell you it is appropriate. So I will say my goodbyes to My Free Forum and sign up somewhere else with my own forum. |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
Consider the implications of us trying to deal with every issue like this?
It would be utterly impossible both for us, and for forum admins to be subject to our judgment on how they run their forums. I will say again, if a forum is badly run, then leave it and take others with you. You will have a hard time finding a forums system that takes a different attitude. |
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| Bravo |
Just as a small aside, all these nasty type of people usually want a response of some kind. I've been called all sorts of things on the internet, the latest just a couple of days ago, I believe the latest name I got was a male chicken 
Best thing to do is ignore them, it's the people who carry out the name calling that look bad, not the person they are directing it at. Most folk think 'what an idiot' with regard to the offender and don't give a second thought to the victim. I (and many others) have found that ignoring these 'trolls' is the best method, for that way you remove their reason for posting, which is to elicit a response. They are cretinous creatures, just move on, leave the forum and find a friendlier one. Also, leaving MFF is of course your choice, but again you let the aggressors win as you are losing a forum on easily the best free forum hosts on the net, my grandmother used to call it 'cutting your nose off to spite your face'. |
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| lindajean777 |
Thank you for the advice. You seem like a nice person. I have made up my mind. I disabled the board already at my forum and I need instruction in how to delete it. Would someone please let me know how to do it? Thanks. | ||||||
| Bravo |
That's in the faq |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
http://forum.myfreeforum.org/ftopic5090.php
In terms of being a bad admin, pulling a forum out from under an active membership is not good! |
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| lindajean777 |
Thanks for the information. Good luck to all of you. | ||||||
| Minious |
I'm sorry but this is blatant slander.
I'm a member of said forum, and this is just rediculous, and the reputation she is being allowed to paint of our forum is both unfair and unjust. The Main Administrator Rive Caedo is one of the most accepting and tolerant people I have met in my life. Four people were involved in a heated debate, "lindajean777" included. All four were told they were going too far, and to cool off. Three of them did, and linda refused, hurling abuse at Rive and calling him bias. I stuck up for her as I believed her mature - another example of the fact we were not biased - because she claims to be over 50, but when I saw what she had been saying to fellow members I agreed she had gone too far. The fact that she was jokingly referred to as Hitler in one thread "You did x... Hitler would do x too..." so more a 'You are like Hitler' than 'You are Hitler' was, granted, uncalled for, but certainly not something to go complaining to MFF for. Rebels has been around for verging on 4 years, we have never had a problem such as this before. We'd all appreciate it if slanderous material directed towards our site was removed. |
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| Minious |
In deleting your forum for no apparent reason, apparently a user also at Rebels has lost 20 pages worth of writing he was working on. Please reconsider such actions in the future. |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
What went on with your forum is trivial name calling. What has happened here is about on the same level. The importance of it should be measured by the fact that the rebels forum owner was NOT contacted about this complaint. I think a thread like this speaks for itself. |
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| Minious |
As can be seen however was that the name calling was put to an end quickly by the administrative and moderating staff, as it is whenever it happens in the fiery Debates section.
The Rebels forum owner is, I believe, Rive Caedo, though originally started by Jedi_Abba, I think she passed over ownership. |
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| Full Tilt Boogie |
Agreed. Having followed this thread [and its abortive counterpart] with, it has to be said, not a little amusement, it became clear to me early on that this former member, 'lindajean777', got into a ruck and out of her depth on the 'Rebels' site, and then tried standing on ceremony by demanding an apology which A) she didn't deserve and B) was never gonna come any way. People disagreeing on Web fora is all just part and parcel of the way they work - and, as with any other aspect of adult life, there will be heated, sometimes VERY heated debates - the trick is to crack on and not take your ball in or hold grudges (as neither traits are very adult). And as for sacking her own forum over this storm in a thimble! 
Talk about cutting one's nose off to spite one's face - or, in short, leaving in a fit of pique.
I gotta admit, though, that her threatening to involve some US-based 'Federal' body had me on my arse laughing - as it may be the tactic of first resort in the US (i.e. immediately getting litigious over nothing), but the Admin's here were the very model of grace under pressure in smiling sagely and, in effect, just saying "as you please, madam..." 
So she's binned the Rebels site she rucked with, and she's binned her own forum as well? And MyFF? Anyone care to try and explain to me what she walked away with out of all this? As I can't see how she's profited by this wee toys-out-pram session at all?? |
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| lindajean777 |
What I see here is exactly why I deleted my forum. A bunch of children without any principles. Who think there is nothing wrong with comparing someone to Adolph Hitler.
Minious is not truthful. It was not dealt with swiftly it went on for days. I was the ONLY ONE who received an administrative warning. All the kiddies got slaps on the wrist. The situation was about bigotry. A group of pro-lifers harangueing someone who is pro-choice. I am not the only person to have problems there who was pro-choice and participated in the debates. As you see from the following link as I blog roll my way across the Star Wars Universe criticizing Rebels, Rive Caedo and MYFF, no one should take it seriously. After all its just trivial stuff. I have already posted on four and just joined a fifth. Great Britian is next. I will make certain to highlight that MYFF is a British forum host as I blog there. http://www.starwarsspace.net/profiles/blogs/rebels-1 If these kiddies think Rive Caedo is a good guy they sorely mistaken. What a shame. I had changed my mind and was going to give over ownership to other members so they could rebuid. Not today I'm afraid. Oh and Full Tilt Boogie. I walked away with my principles. But I doubt that you have a clue what that means. |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
No one on myff has supported any name calling. We have simply and correctly stated that it is not within our rightful jurisdiction.
You are now implying that you will start a smear campaign against us. I think this says a lot more about your nature than ours. I will say again, unless forum owners cross distinct boundaries they have a right to administrate their sites freely, whether well or badly, with or without bias. If we did otherwise chaos would ensue. |
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| Minious |
In the link in your first post in this thread, on the SAME PAGE as your warning, someone else was warned as well and backed off... It was a bloody debate. I have been called a heck of a lot worse on that place, and have called others a heck of a lot worse, and everyone just takes a step back, a deep breath and apologises, and life goes on. They do not report the site to it's mother forum and then go over it's head. Especially at 50+ years of age. In addition, I've been linked to a blog that you posted that publicly named me as a liar and a corrupted moderator. I'd like all mentions of me in your petty tantrum removed, or I will consider it slander.
Ah, there it is.
But don't you see! You HAVEN'T walked away! You were banned and you came here to whine, then you made several new accounts on Rebels. We had to stop ANY new person coming to the site - which is unfair for them - to keep you away, and then you BLOGGED about it. How have you in any regards walked away? |
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| Minious |
In what she's doing she's turning potential members away from a MFF forum. While that does not affect us in terms of revenue or anything similar, surely, as I mentioned in my above post, it borders on slander? |
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| lindajean777 |
My are we not upset now. Different when the shoe is on the other foot, isn't it. I will remove nothing.
There is a principle in the law. Slander is only slander when it is a lie. I was the only one given an administrative warning. I was called all of those names. Those things are not untrue. My opinion of the people and the forum is my opinion. As you all so love to say, people are entitled to their opinions and what's that term I heard so much about? It's called Freedom of Speech. Amazing isn't it. It applies to me too. Wow. Slander I'm afraid not. But as was said to me- Good luck with that. http://www.law.ed.ac.uk/it&law/c10_main.htm Once again incorrect facts from Rebels and its staff. I wasn't banned until AFTER I came here to complain. Draws a big question to motivation doesn't it? |
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| Minious |
What shoe would this be? I think I'm lost in that metaphor...
Jianna. In the link that you posted, it SHOWS Rive warning someone else. You were called stupid, idiot, and a small comparison to Hitler. Worse is said to me every day in the school yard. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, they are not however entitled to their own facts. What you are doing is twisting and morphing facts to support you and in doing so are defaming an internat forum. There is no freedom of speech... I can't walk down the street saying "All black people are dirt beneath my feet, all Jews should be gassed, and all Arabs are filth." That COULD be my opinion, but I am still not allowed to express it in a public forum. You can HAVE your opinion, but as it is not based on factual evidence, and in expressing it it misrepresents another organisation, your are not able to publicise it without stating clearly it is nothing more than your opinion. |
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| lindajean777 |
I am not going to argue the point with you any longer. If you think that you have a case for slander, take your best shot. I will remove or change nothing. It is as simple as that.
Actually stuff like "Politicians are filth" gets said every day and probably by millions of people. Still opinion. Happy trails to the lawyer's office. He may want a retainer. Not a real promising case you've got there. |
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| Minious |
You seem to be misunderstanding my comment about you having been dealth with earlier but for me. For a while Rive suspected that you were in fact a troll, as you seemed to be intentionally picking fights with people. He provided factual evidence that suggested no hint of bias. He was going to QUESTION you on that, nothing more, and I told him he was ridiculous, and that I had a good opinion of you from our time 'training' together. He dropped the issue without a second thought and agreed that he was probably being over the top. Invictus, Sirak, yourself and Redik all went over the top in a debate and all four were chided over it. Invictus complied, Sirak offered to stay out of debates for a while, and Redik also complied. You screamed bloody murder, and came here in an attempt to shut us down. Your reaction and the way you had been speaking to several members complied with our rules regarding a three day ban - flaming. However before that EMBEION stepped in and told the Mods/Admins to hold their horses because he didn't think there was any need. That was when he PMed you. The fact that you took back nothing you said and only reinforced it confirmed that you were disobeying the rules enough to be banned for three days. You then made puppet accounts to get around your ban, continued to flame, and essentially spam. This complied with our rules and regulations regarding permanent banning. At no point did personal prejudice come into it, not on my part, not on Embeion's, nor on Rive's. All three of us at different points defended you from any potential action that may have come your way. |
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| Minious |
I'm a minor - as I suspect you are - and as such can take no real action. |
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| lindajean777 |
I think what I am hearing is the 'new version' of events. But not the true one. | ||||||
| Minious |
Rebels considers this matter closed. Good luck with future endeavours. | ||||||
| lindajean777 |
Now there's a vagrant tag above my avatar on rebels. What it has been all along. Just shaking my head. | ||||||
| Full Tilt Boogie |
I'm sorry, but you really do appear to have confused us with people who actually give a toss. This has nothing whatsoever to do with bigotry, and everything to do with you, and your made up "star wars" fantasy world collapsing around you, due to you not being able to hack it when anyone sees fit to take even so much as a mildly contrary or opposing view to yours - I've read your blog and, sad to say, it's one long overly verbose and repetitive whine. Get over it and move on. The 'real' world is calling and it has a lot worse to offer, so toughen yourself up and sort your act out.
Pardon me as I file my nails whilst yawning love...
And as for 'principles': you're an American, you don't have principles - you have lawyers instead to do your whining for you. Now either please put up or shut up. This got old twelve "par-secs" ago... And here's a constructive piece of advice - as I run an international board, where at least 50% of the membership is American, and yet not one of them is what you refer to as a "Christian conservative" - do not get into it with them: they have limited abilities when it comes to arguing properly, tend to live by bumper-sticker meaningless rhetoric and just rant on about tax-cuts and how Obama is a communist - in short, they're hugely unskilled in life when it comes to life outside their backwoods existence, so don't expect much by way of sense from them. Ignore them and you're life will have some meaning - but for Heaven's sake don't bitch-n-whine at them, as it makes them feel important and gives them a reason to warble on. Free advice, take it or leave it. |
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| lindajean777 |
Unfortunately however, it is not your opinion that counts. If I should feel like 'whining' I will. Whining as I blog across the Star Wars Galaxy. Do you think I don't know that people only 'give a toss' about themselves. I already stated it. My intention is to affect the membership of Rebels. So that new members won't join. Very simple. I don't want people to feel bad for me. I want them to think to themselves "Dang, maybe I'd better not join that rp forum. I'll join a different one. I'd feel rotten if someone compared me to Hitler." If I see their membership get flushed, I'll call it a good day.
And if they were to go under, that would be even better in my consideration. I love what we Americans call 'hard ball in the fast lane' a lot. They gave me a reason. Now I pour it on. |
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| Full Tilt Boogie |
You sad little girl. Grow up. |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
I am locking this, there is nothing constructive being added any more.
It will be interesting to see whether she has the integrity to link her smear campaign to either the rebels thread or the complaints thread? I doubt it as that would show things in a rather different light. |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
Actually I cannot resist a comment, so have unlocked.
Here we have had an open debate, where she has been free to put her case. On her blog, not only does she not link to where people can see the original thread and the complaint, but she has blocked any comment being made on her rant. We just about always insist complaints are aired in the open, so a fair debate can be had, and this lets our members judge the decisions we make. It was following such an incident where Bravo chose to disagree with my stance on a forum complaint and to coherently argue a contrary position that I decided Bravo should get a moderator position here. We have nothing to fear from righteous disagreement. Some T&C cases are rightly contentious and I don't expect everyone to agree with our rulings all the time. But I do believe what we decide is always good enough for us not to need to hide it behind close doors or block a reasonable level of debate. We will never retreat from the core position that hate sites/illegality and some other issues are what we should deal with, but that the general running of a forum needs to be left to the forum owner |
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| lindajean777 |
If that is your position, then it is. I might not agree with it and that is my right. Why should I allow comments on my blog? My blog is what I think, not what everyone else thinks.
There was no reasonable debate on Rebels and it is my turn not to allow it either. Sometimes 'turnabout if fair play'. If you went over everything as I posted on my blog Minious has changed his story even on here repeatedly. First it was because I complained. Then it was that it had been coming for a while. Then suddenly Rive suspected I was a troll and was looking into it. Oh my. My story however has been absolutely consistant even to admitting that I retaliated in the name-calling. All they have offered is excuses for their bad behavior and ever shifting word games. Most experts would tell you, that the person telling the consistant story is the truthful one. But you can decide that for yourself. But when it comes to my blog, allowing comments, why should I give them any courtesies that they don't give to other people? When they drive people from their debates with ridicule (As they did at least one person besides me-and last evening I heard some more commentary) isn't that what they are doing? Silencing anyone who disagrees with them? You can believe what you want. But from your commentary above is what they do also not a form of hate? Just because the symbols of hate aren't in their images, doesn't mean it isn't so. So if MYFF's position is it isn't up to you, and no one seems to think a government agency won't act, then why isn't a taste of their own medicine in order? |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
You don't seem to see the fundermental differences between a "hate site" and having some threads on a forum that in your view (though evidentially not everyones view) are badly moderated with some hateful comments in them.
The issues are poles apart. Anyone can scan our T&C threads in this forum to see that "hate sites" get nailed instantly. I still think you are being hypocritical in smearing us and the rebels forum without any link or ability to comment. |
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| lindajean777 |
Actually I personally don't believe that the two situations are that far apart. One is on a smaller scale. That is a difference in perception. Is the result not the same?
I was onsite when Rive Caedo was deleting and editing posts after he knew I had complained. If he didn't think that he had anything to worry about, why do that? |
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| Full Tilt Boogie |
Admin mate, you really have done enough here, you only dignify her meaningless rants by replying any mire. She's now set off on a round-the-houses victim trawl, and frankly there's nothing of worth to gained from anymore exchange with her. The readers here know who the PITA is here, and it aint MyFF.
Lock the thread and just leave her to wither on the vine as she posts to herself - her natural (and plainly most interested) audience. |
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| Nick(NR) |
I've neglected to comment until now because this has simply gone too long and become aimless. Now please grow up and move on, so you've been called names, Sometime ago I was actually called gay, but I never went out on a whim and started suing them for slander knowing what they were saying is lies, I've moved on and am no longer around those peoples, maybe you should think about doing the same. As for government agency doing anything about a slightly rude names, the likely hood of them actually acting is extremely minute, I have gone down that road in an attempt to get http://www.godhatesgoths.com/ shut down as is nothing more than a hate site and incredibly disrespectful and filled with views of an uneducated man who has no idea about the ins and outs of a goth society (and yes I am part of it), there follows other pages attacking physically and mentally handicapped people, also even going as far to say 99.9% of women are going straight to hell, whether done in a fun poking manner it is discrimination and defamation and your so-called agency did nothing to shut it down. |
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| lindajean777 |
But you were seeking to have a site that was hateful shut down. So why am I wrong for doing the same? | ||||||
| admin (no pm's please) |
The odd dubious thread with a frankly trivial bit of abuse does not make a hate site. I have yet to see an abortion debate that did not get a little out of hand like that, it is the nature of the beast.
You are totally lacking in any perspective, as demonstrated by your attempt to widen things out into smearing us for disagreeing with you, and in shutting down an active site with total disregard for the members there. Have you not noticed that this is a public thread that has been read by any of our members here, and no one has stepped in to your defense. Heck one of the people defending us is actually someone I have put on moderation here so this is hardly a thread of sycophants! |
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| Full Tilt Boogie |
Because you're not doing the same thing - indeed nothing like it. Yours is an immature, misfiring one-girl campaign against a site [Rebels] where you didn't get your own way, tossed your toys out of the pram as a result, and now want to exact some petty schoolgirl revenge. You need to get a grip if people are gonna take you seriously - as currently, you're coming across as a wee bit of a hissy-fit merchant with nothing better to do than seek attention. After a reasonably good trawl through it, I can say that the Rebels site - whilst not my bag in terms of content - is not a 'Hate' or a 'hateful' site - you merely came across other members who had the temerity to disagree with you and you then spat your dummy (sorry, 'pacifier', for our US cousins). Feel free to take your, ahem, "case" (such as it is) to the UN and the Supreme Court love: but I think they'll find you as irritating and pointless as we have. |
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| lindajean777 |
Oh my. You really do think that you've got it all together? What a joke. It is the other way around. And I was the one who had the temerity to disagree with them. Most members there wouldn't for just that reason.
You're the one who absolutely needs to grow up. Did you bother to go look at anything there? I don't believe that you did. There is lots worse in their archives. Just look up Drake Marsee and Rectum (that's a name). They also used to be sister sites with a site called The Dark Sith Lords. That ended and Rive Caedo is referred to by one of TDSL's members as the 'anti-christ' in their postings. No I haven't gotten a good reaction here from the site that doesn't want to do anything, but I have gotten positive feedback from other people who have belonged to and left Rebels for the same thing that happened to me. Several of them to be exact. It sounds to me that you love your own 'share of drama' Full Tilt Boogie. As in you're the supposed 'bad boy' that just has to set people straight. From your perspective of what straight is. What a sad little boy you are that can't understand why someone would take offense at being called Adolph Hilter. What this thread has really shown me is that this is not a host that I want to do business with. And for your information the members of my site are still gathered together and though I have said I felt it might be better to leave rping for awhile they want me to stay and are willing to move to a new host with me. |
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| Full Tilt Boogie |
Actually, that should be the name of your blog: then folks may actually bother to read it. Let it go, you're just looking silly now. |
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| Bravo |
Oh dear, things are getting somewhat heated, aren't they?
Perhaps those folk that are getting a little heated under the collar should take a step back and think to themselves 'is this really worth it?' Surely your time would be better spent being pleasant? I know (as Admin stated) debates on some issues can be very emotional, though usually the person of the opposing viewpoint means no malice, they just disagree. As far as the blog is concerned (I confess I didn't bother to read it, and never will) then I simply state the old adage of any publicity is better than no publicity, it will just draw people to MFF to 'have a look' expecting a shambles of a site, they will instead find arguably the best free forum system in the world. So, it's all good, not that many people would ever see it anyway which is a shame. |
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| lindajean777 |
Actually it is posted in several places and is the second most popular blog on a site with over a thousand members. I call that alright. The new portion is also on a very large site. What you don't seem to understand is that name-calling on the Internet is getting lots of attention. It is all classified now under cyber-bullying. My state has passed laws that can actually send someone to jail and so has the state beside me. It isn't just a matter of 'trivialities' anymore. Name-calling/demeaning people is a serious matter. If someone compared me to Hitler on my job my boss would probably fire them. That is the truth. | ||||||
| Full Tilt Boogie |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
Let's see now, someone called you names in a single thread on a single and you try and make a federal complaint threatening over three quarters of a million people on close to 30,000 forums, to me that seems irrational, disproportionate more than a little dictatorial in fact. Now let me see now I'm sure I could abbreviate a description of such an attitude... it's all a bit Hitler like.... |
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| snowgoose |
For those who don't know what it is, I suggest you read up on Godwin's Law, which states;
You can read all about Godwin's Law Here |
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| lindajean777 |
Actually it was on far more than one thread in more than one topic. Very easy to be dismissive when
a. It's not you being called the names. b. You want to diminish the issue so that you can continue to ignore it. The issue really is a generational one. As an older person I grew up differently. My father would have had me writing a million lines of "You shall not compare anyone to Hitler." I also have had the benefit of seeing the Holocaust exhibit and holding a book with a cover made of human skin in my hands. Perhaps I have a clearer understanding of how horrific the comparison is. The farther someone gets away in age from WWII the less they seem inclined to be affected by its horrors. I think your Hitler comment really says it all. I don't have to say another word. So go ahead and lock the thread. |
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| ErikaPNP |
Oh for Goodness sake. I've seen disagreements of a similar degree in my children's school playground. He said/she said.
MFF takes no responsibility for how an admin chooses to run their forum unless there is a breach of the T&C. There isn't. This has already been explained to the OP, several times over. The OP doesn't like the response, and continues to whine, and issue threats of reporting it to a "higher" authority. If an individual chooses to report such, that is a choice they make. However to then go on a blog where there is no frank exchange of views, and one sole opinion which so happens to be digging as much dirt without anything evident to the facts of the argument only goes to discredit the OP's own case and smear dirt all over herself. Any "higher authority" will see it for what it is and frankly, will fall over themselves laughing. MFF are not here to micro manage forums. They are not here to play teacher, pulling the children apart from their fight either, nor are they here to act as an open ground for mediation between you and another forum. Lindajean, you have had the cards laid on the table. MFF are not going to shut down the forum or act on your complaint as there is no breach of the T&C. They have made their position on the matter clear, and no amount of whining, issuing threats or generally arsing around discrediting yourself is going to change that. Simple as. End of. If you don't like it, go ahead and report it and see how far it gets. Not far, I imagine. If you are an adult then I suggest you begin to behave as such. In life, things are said which we don't like. The wonderful thing is when it is said on the internet, we have the privelege of walking away from it if we don't like it. What you construe as bullying behaviour may not be what another individual construes as bullying. Let that be an end to the matter, and again, if you don't like it, take it to your "higher authority", as it is very obviously going nowhere here, is it? Well, is it? Are you any further forward than when you began this thread? No. See it for what it is. |
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| lindajean777 |
Actually if you look at my last post, I said go ahead and lock the thread. I haven't had any thought whatsoever for quite some time that anything would be done. Actually there are laws about cyber-bullying that are measured by legal opinion not yours or mine that set the criteria. In the realm of the law, your and my opinion mean nothing.
Actually my blog is serving its purpose and will continue to. It has already been taken to my 'higher authority.' I would like to see them review the entirety of the Rebels archives and I suggested it. Sometimes it isn't the one occurance, it is the pattern of behavior. Which they have. I am not the only poster to have had this issue there. I was however the only one old enough to know where to take it too. |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
You really think some "AUTHORITY" is going to spend 10 seconds wasting it's time on a little name calling within a forum
On the scale of things your posts here probably classify more as attempted bullying than anything I have seen on rebels. Even down to your "my Dad fought in the war" emotional blackmail stuff
Guess what? My Dad fought in the war as well, he fought against tyranny and for things like freedom of speech. Our forum owners are confident that their forums are safe from anyone with a pathetic complaint coming and threatening and stirring against them. |
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| lindajean777 |
I don't think I mentioned my Dad fought in the war. Did I? Sometimes in America the 'squeaky wheel gets the grease." All depends on whom you contact. But enough. I will continue this with them and on my blog. I now have a new one on a UK site. "The Saga of Rebels and Reave." Should be fun. TTFN. | ||||||
| Daniel(u1bd2005) |
TTFN means Two Trees Fall Noisily in my culture and as I am a proud naturist I think this is insulting me as a person. Admin you have had over 10 minutes to delete this post but you haven't. Please close down the MFF Support forum or I'll call the IRA.
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| lindajean777 |
What I think is that Rebels never thought that anyone would retaliate. They have driven other members from there as well. But no one has taken any form of action. Whether anyone believes that taking action is right or wrong or not, is irrelevant.
They silence people by driving them out. So what is happening is called 'thus is the lesson.' They are all up in arms about the blog. That's too bad. When you silence other people with ridicule and name calling you deserved to be silenced yourself. When I believe the lesson has been acute and lasting enough it will end and not before. End of posts. Please deactivate my membership. I won't be needing it any longer. |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
You really think you can order people around don't you, lock this delete that....
tough luck. |
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| Rive Caedo |
I was entirely unaware of this situation. This is simply unacceptable. Declaring someone to be the anti-christ is just... wrong! This is especially true since I grew up in a community where the Bible was important. I warn you, MyFreeForums. If "The Dark Sith Lords" is not shut down within 48 hours - I will be taking a complaint to the FCC, FBI, NRA, and CIA. Additionally, I will shut down Rebels. I don't care if Rebels isn't involved in this situation - I control it and thus I have the power to shut it down over this internet flame that occurred at an unspecified time on a message board I don't even visit anymore! IT WILL NOT STAND. Heed this warning or suffer and despair. You'll regret the day that you messed with Rive Caedo. My IP address knows kung fu and it'll wipe the floor with all of yours. Your interwebs won't know what hit them. ... Fine. I admit that my own powers may not be able to defeat you. But... there is another. Come lindajean777. Join me. With our combined strength, we can conquer MyFreeForums, and bring order to the internet. The admin knows this to be true. I... am your father. PS: It was difficult to resist posting this until Lindajean was really gone. I don't want to fan the flames any further. Thanks to MFF staff for being so level headed. Rebels is many things, but a hateful community isn't one of them. Continued best of luck to you Lindajean, if you happen to read this. And apologies for how offended you were by the distasteful comparison that occurred. |
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