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Just done the xmas supermarket run

We do eat quite a bit of junk at xmas

But one thing I did notice was people buying all the so called "fresh" Turkeys in store for £3.28 a kilo.

This morning I got my Turkey from a farmer I know, that i know was killed and plucked Sunday, with coincidally even the plucking being done by someone I know. I paid £5 a kilo and got 12 really free range chicken eggs, and 6 again really really free range ducks eggs plus a pound or two of sausages from free range pork thrown in free

Somehow I think I am getting the better deal!
xanthakita

wow

Sounds like you are going to eat like a King! or maybe better!
admin (no pm's please)

Well we will probably have home smoked wild Salmon as a starter.

The Bacon the Turkey gets wrapped with will be home cured. I am currently soaking a home cured ham, from a free range pig.

The bread sauce will use home made bread.

Unfortunately the vegetables are largley supermarket

My wife had made a homemade stuffing, not quite sure what went in it, but it sure tastes good.

Wine with the meal will be home brewed, the after dinner Liquor will be home made Sloe Gin.
Viper

Where did you learn to cook?
admin (no pm's please)

Viper wrote:
Where did you learn to cook?


No where really. I am certainly no chef. It is one of thse things I'd like to do a training course for though.

But I have always been against processed food with all the crap they put in it, and all the appalling treatment of animals it entails.

I firmly believe you can cook just as quickly without fast food, and if you just expand your cuisine to embrace a little more vegetarianism (which would not harm your health compared to a meat diet) then you can afford do buy better reared meat without the hormones/anit biotics etc.
Actually whilst I make a concious effort not to compare the price of the lamb, pork and beef we are getting direct from an ethical non intensive farm, my suspicion is that it might even be cheaper than the supermarkets, as we buy say half a lamb or quarter of a pig etc at a time.
Viper

admin wrote:
Viper wrote:
Where did you learn to cook?


No where really. I am certainly no chef. It is one of thse things I'd like to do a training course for though.

But I have always been against processed food with all the crap they put in it, and all the appalling treatment of animals it entails.

I firmly believe you can cook just as quickly without fast food, and if you just expand your cuisine to embrace a little more vegetarianism (which would not harm your health compared to a meat diet) then you can afford do buy better reared meat without the hormones/anit biotics etc.
Actually whilst I make a concious effort not to compare the price of the lamb, pork and beef we are getting direct from an ethical non intensive farm, my suspicion is that it might even be cheaper than the supermarkets, as we buy say half a lamb or quarter of a pig etc at a time.


Same here. That's what Jamie Oliver is trying to do, get rid of the reconstituted meat, and feed the kids healthier, what they should be getting.

I don't see why everyone is against Jamie Oliver's work. He's helping the kids with a healthier diet at school. If kids don't eat veg, then their diet simply won't be what they need. The mums complaining, won't be complaining when they see their children growing up to be obese, couch potatoes.
admin (no pm's please)

Viper wrote:
admin wrote:
Viper wrote:
Where did you learn to cook?


No where really. I am certainly no chef. It is one of thse things I'd like to do a training course for though.

But I have always been against processed food with all the crap they put in it, and all the appalling treatment of animals it entails.

I firmly believe you can cook just as quickly without fast food, and if you just expand your cuisine to embrace a little more vegetarianism (which would not harm your health compared to a meat diet) then you can afford do buy better reared meat without the hormones/anit biotics etc.
Actually whilst I make a concious effort not to compare the price of the lamb, pork and beef we are getting direct from an ethical non intensive farm, my suspicion is that it might even be cheaper than the supermarkets, as we buy say half a lamb or quarter of a pig etc at a time.


Same here. That's what Jamie Oliver is trying to do, get rid of the reconstituted meat, and feed the kids healthier, what they should be getting.

I don't see why everyone is against Jamie Oliver's work. He's helping the kids with a healthier diet at school. If kids don't eat veg, then their diet simply won't be what they need. The mums complaining, won't be complaining when they see their children growing up to be obese, couch potatoes.


All I have against JO is his rank hyprocracy in doing adverts for a leading supermarkets. Adverts which are often very misleading. it seems like he will do anything to make a fast buck.
Symon

I live only around 5 miles from 2 of my kids, ive just picked them up and it has taken nearly 3 hours to travel there and back, the trouble is the massaive tessco and marks and sparks superstores (this is where i have to change buses) everyone double poarking , parking in the bus lanes FIGHTING over the turkeys,

Come on people am i the only one who thinks turkey has gone well past its value as a christmas meal, i havnt had turkey for around 12 years now.
Viper

symon wrote:
I live only around 5 miles from 2 of my kids, ive just picked them up and it has taken nearly 3 hours to travel there and back, the trouble is the massaive tessco and marks and sparks superstores (this is where i have to change buses) everyone double poarking , parking in the bus lanes FIGHTING over the turkeys,

Come on people am i the only one who thinks turkey has gone well past its value as a christmas meal, i havnt had turkey for around 12 years now.


Turkey is traditional, and will be used for years to come i presume
Symon

Quote:
Turkey is traditional, and will be used for years to come i presume


So was slavery, and kids working in mines, but then the world saw sense, lets hope they see sense soon

FREE the Turkeys
Viper

symon wrote:
Quote:
Turkey is traditional, and will be used for years to come i presume


So was slavery, and kids working in mines, but then the world saw sense, lets hope they see sense soon

FREE the Turkeys


admin (no pm's please)

We eat Turkey once a year, which means it stays as a real treat for us

I think we lose so much enjoyment of things by having them regularily. Bring back the single orange in an xmas stocking Wink
ms moon

so admin, christmas dinner is at your house then? what time?

admin (no pm's please)

ms moon wrote:
so admin, christmas dinner is at your house then? what time?



We'd actually love a few more guests. It is a 5kg bird and we are only cooking for 5 this year, usually we cater for a lot more and prefer it that way.
BenMcDermott

Count me in Martin
Tibbittz

symon wrote:
Quote:
Turkey is traditional, and will be used for years to come i presume


So was slavery, and kids working in mines, but then the world saw sense, lets hope they see sense soon

FREE the Turkeys
My Thanksgiving turkey WAS free this year, with a coupon, 'cause we spent over $100...
Symon

admin wrote:
We eat Turkey once a year, which means it stays as a real treat for us

I think we lose so much enjoyment of things by having them regularily. Bring back the single orange in an xmas stocking Wink


I can see that but its the ones that MUST have turkey because it christmas... try duck or geese or rabbit or well i was going to hippo but last time i had a hippo sandwich it broke my arm just trying to lift the bugger.
admin (no pm's please)

symon wrote:
admin wrote:
We eat Turkey once a year, which means it stays as a real treat for us

I think we lose so much enjoyment of things by having them regularily. Bring back the single orange in an xmas stocking Wink


I can see that but its the ones that MUST have turkey because it christmas... try duck or geese or rabbit or well i was going to hippo but last time i had a hippo sandwich it broke my arm just trying to lift the bugger.


We did Goose last year for a change, and because we could not find a decent Turkey.
admin (no pm's please)

Tibbittz wrote:
symon wrote:
Quote:
Turkey is traditional, and will be used for years to come i presume


So was slavery, and kids working in mines, but then the world saw sense, lets hope they see sense soon

FREE the Turkeys
My Thanksgiving turkey WAS free this year, with a coupon, 'cause we spent over $100...


But what sort of Turkey was it? I won't get pious about this as two years ago I would have been the one thinking that there are a lot more important things to worry about than the quality of meat and animal welfare. But then I decided that the more important issues were ones I could do nothing effective about (and trust me I spent 25 years trying) but there were issues where I could make better ethical choices on a personal level and hopefully influence others.
So we have spent the last 18 months beginning to get our act together on things where we can make good choices. One of our initiatives is of course:

http://www.downsizer.net/
St0rm[TitE]

weve just spent over £100 on stuff just for xmas dinner.

mind you, 36 cans of Fosters, 12 bottles of Artois Bock and 3 bottles of wine kind of bumped the price up a bit.

im off to booze busters later to stock up on some real ale as well
BenMcDermott

St0rm[TitE] wrote:
weve just spent over £100 on stuff just for xmas dinner.

mind you, 36 cans of Fosters, 12 bottles of Artois Bock and 3 bottles of wine kind of bumped the price up a bit.

im off to booze busters later to stock up on some real ale as well



admin (no pm's please)

Well we are somewhat stuffed to the gills with enough left over to feed twice as may again

All pretty much on the wiring timing wise as well, though needed to do some last minute emergency frying as the farm made suasages were bigger than your average banger.

Just a real shame that is was just the 5 of us.
Symon

admin wrote:
Well we are somewhat stuffed to the gills with enough left over to feed twice as may again

All pretty much on the wiring timing wise as well, though needed to do some last minute emergency frying as the farm made suasages were bigger than your average banger.

Just a real shame that is was just the 5 of us.


Not had mine yet but it is cooking away.

kids cant leave the buzz game alone 4 hours of it now
St0rm[TitE]

damn, me and my wife were gonna get the buzz game for ps2 but we didnt. wish we had now.

weve just got back from visiting our parents, so ive only just put the turkey in the oven and im starvin marvin.
Symon

St0rm[TitE] wrote:
damn, me and my wife were gonna get the buzz game for ps2 but we didnt. wish we had now.

weve just got back from visiting our parents, so ive only just put the turkey in the oven and im starvin marvin.


The kids beat me every game on the new songs bit so i set it to the old songs and got the highest score Wink
Tibbittz

admin wrote:
Tibbittz wrote:
symon wrote:
Quote:
Turkey is traditional, and will be used for years to come i presume


So was slavery, and kids working in mines, but then the world saw sense, lets hope they see sense soon

FREE the Turkeys
My Thanksgiving turkey WAS free this year, with a coupon, 'cause we spent over $100...


But what sort of Turkey was it? I won't get pious about this as two years ago I would have been the one thinking that there are a lot more important things to worry about than the quality of meat and animal welfare. But then I decided that the more important issues were ones I could do nothing effective about (and trust me I spent 25 years trying) but there were issues where I could make better ethical choices on a personal level and hopefully influence others.
So we have spent the last 18 months beginning to get our act together on things where we can make good choices. One of our initiatives is of course:

http://www.downsizer.net/
It was a Norbest Tender-Timed turkey, which a good brand. Though it apparently isn't a free-range turkey, which the company offers as a seperate choice.

http://www.norbest.com/b_whole_birds.cfm
admin (no pm's please)

As I say I can't get pious about it, as my militancy on the issue is quite recent. But I have been making a habit of inspecting Poultry on supermarkets shelves and have found that frequently even birds labelled organic free range are scarred by hock burns, a sympom basically of wading in shit due to crowded conditions.
So we have pretty much taken poultry out of our diet, as unlike beef, lamb and pork, we have not found a regular supplier. We get the odd chicken from a farmers market, but it is a treat as they are very expensive.

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