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| daler=p |
He is back ...You will probably remember a while back I made this topic:http://forum.myfreeforum.org/ftopic17021-45.php With regard to this forum: swapitshoplounge.myfreeforum.org/ The matter was resolved as you forced the forum to ban the member and added that he was never to be allowed back. However, it would now appear he has returned under a different username. Before bringing the matter here, the member has been reported in the appropriate manner while Staff have been active. However, as of yet nothing has been done by the forum's Staff. He has obviously been on there for a while as he has nearly 100 posts now, they must of realised who he is. Especially since he is using the same Swapitshop username to trade on the site. You yourself said before locking the last thread;
I trust you to again take the appropriate action. Thanks for your time. |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
I have reported this thread to the forum owner.
Already though your manner of reporting is failing. You do not mention the username or any threads, just who it has been reported to? e.g. you reduce the report to the least adequate it could be. |
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| query |
You do realise a 17 year old cannot be a paedophile? | ||||
| admin (no pm's please) |
Don't play semantics. A 17yo trying to get a 13yo to strip on webcam is being a sexual predator, not the worst in the world maybe, and perhaps not a pedophile by some definitions. But it qualifies in my book as someone who should not be on a child orientated forum.
That matter has been settled and is NOT open to debate. Any posts that want to quibble that point will be removed, so do not reply. All that matters is whether this individual is back posting and whether that is known by the admins. |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
Well query cannot understand English and is now banned. | ||||
| daler=p |
Ok, thanks. My apologies, I will include that now. His new username is David_Bullock. http://swapitshoplounge.co.uk/Mp3_players_any_sizes__about1933.html - First post in that thread is by Adam and if you look at his details, you will see his 'SS Username' is ASC. http://swapitshoplounge.co.uk/about69312.html - Link to thread where he says to search ASC (Adam's account). The user was reported to all Staff using their 'Report Central' forum while Staff were active. The Report thread was locked just after 6am, and as of yet nothing has been done. Either they know who this member really is or they just aren't treating this matter with the urgency they should. |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
All I can see there is:
e.g. claiming that it is his brother. Okay one can be suspicious about that, and the fact stands that should there be admin level collusion to let this character back then the board will go, but there has to be real evidence when deal with real severe consequences. |
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| daler=p |
Well I will have a look now as I understand you will need more evidence to actually take decisive action. That is all that can be seen, but it is clearly a pathetic lie. I have no idea whether he has a brother or not, but why would his brother only join the forum once Adam has been banned and why is he promoting the offender's account? Also, Adam's surname is Wells, not Bullock. |
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| Zudane |
I just had to comment on this... At least in the US, anybody having sexual relations with a minor, WHETHER OR NOT they are a minor themselves, can be charged with statutory rape. I know a 16 year old that was charged with it for being with a 15 year old. Really, pedophilia is sexual relations with a minor, it states NOTHING about the age of the perpetrator, just the target/victim. I can see how you could not want to push relations between two minors, but in reality, that's still what it is. |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
Okay that post is not "quibbling" the point, but I don't want to see posts backing our position any more than posts arguing it.
So please only post on whether this character is back on the forum. |
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| daler=p |
I am a little stuck here. It is quite obviously Adam as he using the same 'Swapitshop Username' as Adam, ASC. Also, this new account's profile says his real name is 'David Bullock', yet he is claiming to be brothers with Adam Wells, doesn't really add up. Why they haven't banned his IP I will never know. He could use a proxy I guess, but it would at least show they have done all they can to prevent his return. Anyway, the thread that was made in the 'Report Central' forum, bringing Staff's attention to the fact that this user is Adam was locked at about 6.30am this morning and the Moderator said action would be taken and the user would be banned. Since this time, Admins have been online and been active on the boards, including the owner himself, yet the account remains unbanned. All this shows to me is either that the Staff are lazy and are not treating this matter with the urgency I believe it requires, or they are just making false promises of action to try and keep the members quiet and cover up. I am not quite sure how I am meant to prove sufficiently that there was collusion at an Admin level to allow Adam back on SSL as they are not exactly going to openly post it on a public forum. The owner can quite easily just come along and act like he didn't know and ban him again and he could return again at a later date, we would be non the wiser. Anyway, the owner is online now (I just checked), so hopefully he should come over here soon to give us his input on this matter. |
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| daler=p |
Still no word for the SSL Admin team?
Even after a promise was made to ban the user, he still remains active. Something needs to be done, soon. We already establised this user was a danger, it is obvious he has returned, yet nothing has been done. I am still stuck on how to prove the Admins knew though (if they did), not exactly something they are going to publicise. 
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| daler=p |
Seriously, still no reply from anyone?
Can I take it then that this whole issue is just being ignored and forgotten about then? I didn't expect the forum to be shut down without any concrete proof that the Admin's knew about and allowed Adam's return, but at the very least I expected Adam to be banned again. Justice. 
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| admin (no pm's please) |
You have given us nothing but hearsay, we cannot act on hearsay. | ||||
| daler=p |
I have given you proof that Adam is this user. The Staff even did an IP check and he matched Adam. They said he would be banned and nothing has been done. I even linked you to this thread. I will agree that I have not given proof that the Admin's knew, as I said before, I don't think its possible for me to do this. |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
I see no proof and even in your last post you illustrate that you are not to be trusted on this.
You did not report the fact this user claimed to be his brother, a fact that if true would explain an ip address being the same. The fact that you raise this as some sort of confirmation discredits your reliability here. |
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| daler=p |
So since an IP check quite obviously means nothing to you, what kind of proof are you expecting here, a signed confession from the Admins and an admission of guilt from Adam himself, both with a timestamp of course? Yes, of course, I forgot all about that claim. Did you know that I myself am Bill Gates' brother? People can claim to be whoever they want over the internet, the fact that his "brother" does not share the same surname as Adam and is promoting Adam's account seems to discredit the reliability of that claim, or am I the only one who can see this? See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. Ignore this report, Adam wins. Since in your eyes I am less trustworthy than a paedophile, there is no point in even bothering with this anymore. |
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| Splash |
Heya,
Sorry for not responding sooner, I received no noticed of this thread here and I only come on here when there has been a problem. I haven't been on the forum much recently, but EAP knows to ban him if he is found to be on the site, and I've just checked and the member which has been refered to has been banned. On another note, we can't be expected to check every single member who joins the site with an IP check to him, some peoples IP's change, and as for blocking his IP it could prevent others from acessing the forum. However any problems will be dealt with accordinly by the mod/admin team. And daler=p, the reason he may not been banned is because EAP is only person alongside me and eddie which can do this. Once again im sorry for this problem, he hasnt been let back and on any ocassion we find him on there he will be banned. Joey |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
Thank you.
As you might gather from this thread, we take seriously both the issue, and your rights to manage your own forum. You will not have a problem unless your admins collude in allowing access, a disingenuous complaint is not going to get you in trouble. |
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| daler=p |
I am well aware of the fact that EAP is the only other member of Staff besides the owners with the power to ban. However, the fact remains that you didn't even have to check his IP. He was reported as being Adam and Moderators promised he would be banned, yet it took several days and another couple report threads before anything happened. Before you say anything, EAP was online during this period and according to you he is under strict instruction to ban Adam if he is found to have re-joined, so I was just wondering why a ban took so long? I know it took a good while as I checked back daily to see if anything had been done. I understand the whole IP issue, being Admin on several forums myself, it was merely a suggestion. He will probably just use a proxy server anyway. Perhaps a ban on his e-mail may be more suitable? Admin, I never expected a complaint to get the forum itself in trouble, all I was really after was a ban on the individual. If the Admins had allowed him back, yes, I did expect appropriate action to be taken, but it turns out that was not the case, so in this respect I apologise if I was too quick to assume and accuse. Joey, thanks for taking action, just wish it could of been a little quicker. I do however realise this was not down to you as you were not online and were not aware of what was going on. This thread may now be locked, I am satisfied that justice has been done. |
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| OopsTVForum |
The forum does not let multiple accounts with the same email sign up anyway, so that is not going to work. He'd just use another email anyway. |
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| ManUtdRul3 |
I'm a mod on SwapitShop Lounge. I'm just posting to say that "David_Bullock" was banned a while ago. | ||||
| Nick(NR) |
That was not the issue on this occasion, it was whether he had signed up again and claimed to be his brother |
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| admin (no pm's please) |
I'm locking this, plainly the issue in the thread has been resolved. | ||||