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ManUtdRul3

Forum been copied...

My forum: http://swapitshoplounge.myfreeforum.org/index.php
Copying forum: http://swapitshopdaily.myfreeforum.org/index.php


When you look at the forum, you can see the site instantly looks like a rip off. A lot of the sections (and descriptions) have been copied and tweaked slightly.

Any action would be great. Thanks.
admin (no pm's please)

Sections and descriptions are always going to be similar between similar forums. We will take action only on posts.
Dan_Brown

Yes, but every aspect of our forum has been copied.

They have the same:

Karma images
Profile layouts
Ranks
Online offline images
Forum Layout
Forum sections
Descriptions

They even tried to make their logo the same as ours.

(By the way, I am an admin on swapitshop lounge)
Bravo

A pretty blatant copy site imo, even the misspellings are the same, indicating a copy n' paste.

Whether that falls foul of the ToS is Admins decision though of course.
admin (no pm's please)

I'd agree it makes it debatable, but really though this just indicates a totally lame forum, sure we could slap them and get some bits changed, but that would only actually do them a favour. You have 18,000 registered users, they have 18.... unless they offer something distinctive they are doomed anyway.
Zudane

There must have been a lot of changes today, because I see very little in common between the two... some of the forum titles are the same, but descriptions are different, the style is different...

Granted you can definitely see some parts that are copied, but right now I don't think I could say the entire forum is a copy.
dom.1994

Dan_Brown wrote:
Yes, but every aspect of our forum has been copied.

They have the same:

Karma images
Profile layouts
Ranks
Online offline images
Forum Layout
Forum sections
Descriptions

They even tried to make their logo the same as ours.


http://swapitshopdaily.myfreeforum.org/index.php

(By the way, I am an admin on swapitshop lounge)


we have not copied we have took inspiration from variouse similar sites

Karma images - freeley avalible on howtodoit
Profile layouts - how
Ranks - images and rans completley different
Online offline images  - were avalible on the web you originally copied them
Forum Layout - differnnt
Forum sections - most of the swapitshop forums have the same sections
Descriptions - look they are differnt to yours

and if you look at the logo it is completley different

also the member adam on this forum helped us and he has never seen your forum

and our overall look and graphics are a lot different to yours

there is severall ss site in competition so why moan about 1 more
admin (no pm's please)

As people have said, even spelling mistakes were the same, and when I looked the logo was a blatant look alike as was the general style.

It was beyond the point of coincidence, and close to the point where you might simply have been shut down.
dom.1994

why should even think of being shut down come into the picture i used parts of there descriptions if the dont want people to use there stuff they should get it comprighted and most of that is freeley avalible from the webi.e the karma images and i could find you several site which have the same sectiona and same rough descriptions
admin (no pm's please)

Given the admission of directly copying someones implicitly copyrighted material this forum has now been suspended for breach of copyright.
dom.1994

they do no have a copy right

how can i get the forum back


how can i get the forum back?

is there any legal action i can take?

as i have put a lot of hard work into the forum
OopsTVForum

dom.1994 wrote:
there any legal action i can take?


You broke the Myff TOS, so they choose what goes
dom.1994

its a bit hars as i ahve spent weeks on the forum and in under like 1 min it is all destroyed
kclives

dom.1994 wrote:
its a bit hars as i ahve spent weeks on the forum and in under like 1 min it is all destroyed

You agreed to the ToS when you created your forum, if you break these Admin is well within his right to instantly suspend your forum. It's not harsh at all. Also, get some spelling lessons, your posts are almost painful to read.
dom.1994

but i do not see why it has been suspended as it was not the same as the other site if i can get my forum back i will change it so its not the same as i took a lot of hard work and now its juat wasted
kclives

dom.1994 wrote:
but i do not see why it has been suspended as it was not the same as the other site if i can get my forum back i will change it so its not the same as i took a lot of hard work and now its juat wasted

It was very similar, text had been directly copy and pasted and the images and layout had taken direct cues from SwapitShop Lounge. You'd basically created a sub-quality clone.
admin (no pm's please)

Let me first point out that this is a topic for here and not PMs.

The fundamental issues here have not been addressed.

We have someone who has blatantly and by their own admission copied someone else's forum.

We have someone who claims to know more about copyright law than we do, and :

Quote:

f the dont want people to use there stuff they should get it comprighted


regards other peoples right to their work in contempt. A bad attitude even if they were right about the law which they are not.

Whilst this situation is not beyond recall, it will not happen unless the issues are properly dealt with.
dom.1994

Could i have an email adress of yours admin please as i fell we need to talk

Dominics Mum

V Jonson
symon

dom.1994 wrote:
Could i have an email adress of yours admin please as i fell we need to talk

Dominics Mum

V Jonson


All issues are dealt with in public, your sons site was a blatant copy of someone else's work, Admin has asked for him to explain this and address the issue , to which as of this time he has failed to do so.

Again we deal with complaints in the open and not behind the scenes , this benefits all parties concerned .
dom.1994

But as you see if you look at the email that dominic sent it explains why he did not want the rest of the sites members to see as he know a few people on the site a some pople chooses to descriminate against him due to that fact.

To save a lot of bother and upset i mysel and him and also you would probably like the issue resolved .

He did not understand what he had do to to resolve the issue in question.

so could you please explain what needs doind for this issue to be resolved and for it to carry on as normal
symon

dom.1994 wrote:
But as you see if you look at the email that dominic sent it explains why he did not want the rest of the sites members to see as he know a few people on the site a some pople chosses to descriminate agib him due to that fact


We deal with any complaint seriously, you son needs to address the issues asked by Admin in this thread, we watch all threads , so any childish post that are posted to disrupt the thread will be removed.
dom.1994

kclives wrote:
dom.1994 wrote:
But as you see if you look at the email that dominic sent it explains why he did not want the rest of the sites members to see as he know a few people on the site a some pople chosses to descriminate agib him due to that fact

To save a lota lot of bother and upset i mysel and him and also you would probably like the issue resolved

and he did not understabd what he had do to to resolve the issue

so could you please explain what needs doind for this issue to be resolved and for it to carry on as normal

You're his mum? Seems like illiteracy runs in the family.


posts such as that he has told me that people often pick him up on his spelling and grammer and aas i have made aa few mistakes due to touch typind a child brings up my mistakes to get a high for himk/her self
admin (no pm's please)

You are the one that has made public a private conversation, so you cannot care about its contents that much.

dom.1994 plainly feels he can make assertions about the law, and also that copying peoples work is simply something he needs to rectify.

If he or you cannot see the issues involved there, then there is no question of us risking him running a forum.
symon

dom.1994 wrote:
kclives wrote:
dom.1994 wrote:
But as you see if you look at the email that dominic sent it explains why he did not want the rest of the sites members to see as he know a few people on the site a some pople chosses to descriminate agib him due to that fact

To save a lota lot of bother and upset i mysel and him and also you would probably like the issue resolved

and he did not understabd what he had do to to resolve the issue

so could you please explain what needs doind for this issue to be resolved and for it to carry on as normal

You're his mum? Seems like illiteracy runs in the family.


posts such as that he has told me that people often pick him up on his spelling and grammer and aas i have made aa few mistakes due to touch typind a child brings up my mistakes to get a high for himk/her self


That post has been removed by myself a few moments ago when i saw it.

And a warning to all following it, anymore posts like that will be removed and your posting rights removed aswell.
dom.1994

Thank you symon you have been most polite and helpful.

I see that  he should not of copied another persons work and im am willing to help you/him to put this right.

I literally know nothing to do with making website but could you make a ilst of what needs putting right or changing.

He does not know about the law obviously as he is only a child .he says he wrote what he wrote on an assumption and on no facts.

He realises that it was wrong to plagurise others work and say he wont do this again and will change the contex of his website and apoligises for doing so in the first place.

Also please could the post that i wrote with his email to the admin in be deleted as he does not want people knoeing about what is wrote in there.
admin (no pm's please)

Since that does address the core issues I am un-suspending.
dom.1994

thank you for unbanning my sons forum is there any thing that he needs to change on there to prevent further issues

he apoligises for everything that has happend

my son can be a bit full of himself sometimes and can come across in the wrong way

but thank alot
while()

dom.1994 wrote:

posts such as that he has told me that people often pick him up on his spelling and grammer and aas i have made aa few mistakes due to touch typind a child brings up my mistakes to get a high for himk/her self


Spelling and grammar is something that should be important to anyone, nobody expects anyone to have 100% perfect spelling and grammar, but every effort should be made to type properly, it makes it a lot easier for people to understand what you're saying. If "touch typing" creates so many mistakes you may want to consider reviewing your post before you hit submit and make any corrections, or look at the keyboard as you type.
admin (no pm's please)

I'm dyslexic to a degree and sadly still a poor touch typist. My posts would be chronically littered with typos so I use a spell checker to help and I proof read what I type before I hit submit.

I consider it a common courtesy to do so.

When I see someone asking for help who cannot be bothered to engage in such a basic process, I do not feel sympathy for any difficulties they might have, I simply feel annoyed at how lazy they are.

For a laugh having proof read to that point. I will now post my attempt at the same message without corrections.

I'm dyslexcix to a frgresd and sandl stilkl a poor touch typiost , My post would be xchroiniucally littlerdd with typoes so IU use a spell checked to help and  proff read what I tepe before I thi submit.
I coidier is a common cuuretuy to do so.

When I see someone aksing for help whok cannot befot bothered ot enAGSG INSUCH A Basic process, I sdo not feel sympathy for any diffiucltues thye minght havew I siml,y feel anoyeed at how lazxy there are,
symon

I`m going to lock this now as the issues have been dealt with.

My suggestions to you are the following.

1. Change the logo so it does not look like the other forums logo
2. Change the forums sections to something not the same as the other forum.
3. Change the rank images (maybe this is not a major issue as these are used by many forums)


When you make a forum on the same subject as other forums, the best way to make it successful is to make it different from the others. Copying a forum word for word will never work.

I will send you to this section on my forum ,, please take the time to read though the hints.

http://howtodoit.myfreeforum.org/...hp?component=forum&forumid=12

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