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Louise

Copyrighting Logos & Slogans

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How would I please go about Copyrighting my Logo and Slogan to prevent it from being used by other Forums?

As You can see from Our Logo, we have the Slogan 'Kick Back, Relax & Chat'  But have now found another forum are using the same /or very similar slogan to advertise themselves.

So I'm Now thinking of Changing our Slogan so that we don't get conected and would Like to prevent it from being  poached again in future.

How would I go about doing this Please?
Bravo

None of us are solicitors here so take any advice with a pinch of salt.  If you truly want to copyright such as these properly then I'd suggest getting in touch with someone who truly knows what they are talking about.  The nature of the internet means you'd need someone who is trained in international copyright law.

If you are being copied verbatim from another MFF forum this could be grounds for their forum being suspended so post the details up in the T&C forum.
Louise

I really don't wish to get another Forum Into trouble.

They don't have the slogan actually on their Forum But in their description on one of the sites where they want people to vote for them.

Whearas we have 'Kick Back, Relax & Chat' They are using (Only recently) 'Kick Back, Relax & Join the *****'
myff admin

Copyright is complex unfortunately. But in the case of a forum logo you have implicit copyright and no other forum can just nick your logo.

If you have given a logo you have designed to another forum on the other hand and you have given consent to its use as a logo, then you still retain copyright unless you explicitly hand over copyright, but you cannot then withdraw your consent to it being used.

e.g. right of use and copyright are different.
Bravo

Well you must be doing something right if people are copying you  Wink

Oh, and I felt like making this, use it or not your choice  

Louise

That's True I suppose - And I suppose, It's Much Like when artists poach Music, they change it slightly so they can get away with it, which is what they've done with the slogan,so Would get away with It I suppose.

I Like That, Thank You But I have No Intention of changing our Banner as It's becoming recognised now and I've worked the whole Forum colour scheme etc around It.

I'm just thinking of changing our Slogan.

I will Keep that though in case I think of a Future use for it, Thank You.
Louise

Bravo, Can I ask what Programme you use? Is It Photoshop or something else?
Bravo

I use Photoshop
Louise

I may have to have a Go at That - I've only ever used MS Paint.  
Bravo

It is rather expensive, though you can usually pick up older versions on such as ebay quite cheaply.  GIMP is a free version (though nowhere near the quality of Photoshop, but it is free).
Louise

My Husband has just started using PS 7.0

What is the Most recent version?

And I'll have a Peep at GIMP Too, Thanks.
Bravo

I use CS3, I think the latest is CS4. (CS = Creative Suite).

Though Photoshop 7 has most features you'd really use.  My version has fancy stuff that I don't even touch.
kellie

Have just read this and guessed straight away it must of been what was put on our description on a voting site.

I shall ask the person who set it up to change it a.s.a.p

Sorry if it offended you Louise, it will be changed
Louise

Lol, I thought your new avatar was a bit Fancy!  

Could you direct me to a reliable Link to download GIMP please?
Bravo

Pinched from the 'resources' section of CG Arts, all these are free 2d art programs:

Gimp http://www.gimp.org/
Deep Paint 2D http://www.download.com/Deep-Paint/3000-2191_4-10398243.html
Paint NET http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html
Ultimate Paint http://www.ultimatepaint.com/up.zip
Pixia http://park18.wakwak.com/~pixia/
Art Rage http://www.ambientdesign.com/artrage.html
Texture maker http://texturemaker.com/news.php
Photo Plus 6 http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/software/PhotoPlus/default.asp
Draw Plus 4 http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/software/DrawPlus/inaction.asp
PC Image editor http://www.program4pc.com/image_editor.html
Graphics Gale  http://www.humanbalance.net/gale/us/index.html
VCW VicMan's Photo Editor http://www.vicman.net/vcwphoto/index.htm
CBN Selector http://www.cbnsystem.com/software/selector_benefits.asp
Project Dogwaffle 1.2  http://www.thebest3d.com/dogwaffle/free/mirror_dw12free.html
Inkscape http://www.inkscape.org/
Satori PHOTO XL 2.29 ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/winsite/winnt/misc/pxl229.exe
Bravo

Louise wrote:
Lol, I thought your new avatar was a bit Fancy!  


As you can no doubt tell from my making unasked a new banner for you, I've been pottering about a bit today and made my new avatar  

Wasn't that hard actually, only took about 10 minutes  

Gah, page changed, didn't want you to miss my post of resources for you:

Bravo wrote:
Pinched from the 'resources' section of CG Arts, all these are free 2d art programs:

Gimp http://www.gimp.org/
Deep Paint 2D http://www.download.com/Deep-Paint/3000-2191_4-10398243.html
Paint NET http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html
Ultimate Paint http://www.ultimatepaint.com/up.zip
Pixia http://park18.wakwak.com/~pixia/
Art Rage http://www.ambientdesign.com/artrage.html
Texture maker http://texturemaker.com/news.php
Photo Plus 6 http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/software/PhotoPlus/default.asp
Draw Plus 4 http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/software/DrawPlus/inaction.asp
PC Image editor http://www.program4pc.com/image_editor.html
Graphics Gale  http://www.humanbalance.net/gale/us/index.html
VCW VicMan's Photo Editor http://www.vicman.net/vcwphoto/index.htm
CBN Selector http://www.cbnsystem.com/software/selector_benefits.asp
Project Dogwaffle 1.2  http://www.thebest3d.com/dogwaffle/free/mirror_dw12free.html
Inkscape http://www.inkscape.org/
Satori PHOTO XL 2.29 ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/winsite/winnt/misc/pxl229.exe
Louise

kellie wrote:
Have just read this and guessed straight away it must of been what was put on our description on a voting site.

I shall ask the person who set it up to change it a.s.a.p

Sorry if it offended you Louise, it will be changed



Thank You.

It doesn't offend me as such, I just want to protect the Uniquenss and Originality of my own Forum - As you saw, I had no wish to name & Shame your Forum.

Thank You.
Louise

Bravo wrote:
Louise wrote:
Lol, I thought your new avatar was a bit Fancy!  


As you can no doubt tell from my making unasked a new banner for you, I've been pottering about a bit today and made my new avatar  

Wasn't that hard actually, only took about 10 minutes  

Gah, page changed, didn't want you to miss my post of resources for you:

Bravo wrote:
Pinched from the 'resources' section of CG Arts, all these are free 2d art programs:

Gimp http://www.gimp.org/
Deep Paint 2D http://www.download.com/Deep-Paint/3000-2191_4-10398243.html
Paint NET http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html
Ultimate Paint http://www.ultimatepaint.com/up.zip
Pixia http://park18.wakwak.com/~pixia/
Art Rage http://www.ambientdesign.com/artrage.html
Texture maker http://texturemaker.com/news.php
Photo Plus 6 http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/software/PhotoPlus/default.asp
Draw Plus 4 http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/software/DrawPlus/inaction.asp
PC Image editor http://www.program4pc.com/image_editor.html
Graphics Gale  http://www.humanbalance.net/gale/us/index.html
VCW VicMan's Photo Editor http://www.vicman.net/vcwphoto/index.htm
CBN Selector http://www.cbnsystem.com/software/selector_benefits.asp
Project Dogwaffle 1.2  http://www.thebest3d.com/dogwaffle/free/mirror_dw12free.html
Inkscape http://www.inkscape.org/
Satori PHOTO XL 2.29 ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/winsite/winnt/misc/pxl229.exe


Ow Wow, Thank You Bravo - I shall save these and enjoy pottering!  
Louise

Louise wrote:
kellie wrote:
Have just read this and guessed straight away it must of been what was put on our description on a voting site.

I shall ask the person who set it up to change it a.s.a.p

Sorry if it offended you Louise, it will be changed



Thank You.

It doesn't offend me as such, I just want to protect the Uniquenss and Originality of my own Forum - As you saw, I had no wish to name & Shame your Forum.

Thank You.


As it's now three days later and this has yet to be resolved as Promised - I have PM'd you.
Full Tilt Boogie

Louise wrote:
I really don't wish to get another Forum Into trouble.

They don't have the slogan actually on their Forum But in their description on one of the sites where they want people to vote for them.

Whearas we have 'Kick Back, Relax & Chat' They are using (Only recently) 'Kick Back, Relax & Join the *****'


I'm no lawyer, but I'd be willing to bet money that you'd not win this case if you decided to take it to litigation.

The reason is something called the "reasonable use clause" - whereas you use 'Kick Back, Relax & Chat' as part of your logo and as your tag-line, they (the other site) do not (from what you've told us), indeed, they only use it "in their description on one of the sites where they want people to vote for them..."

If they were going head-to-head with you, and defiantly and overtly trying to compete by using either the same or as near as damn it the same form of words in their logo, then you'd have a case; but you can't copyright ever word in the English language merely on the off-chance that someone else might at some stage use a similar arrangement as yourself.

I sincerely hope you get it sorted Louise. Good luck with it.
Louise

As I said already in the thread, I feel you're probably correct as It's changed slightly from ours But as they Publicly offered to change things as a token Of Goodwill, It would be nice if they followed through on that !
kellie

Any changes have to be made by 1Awards, they have
been contacted with the new wording and we can't do any more than that.

Hopefully it will be changed soon
Louise

Thank you.

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