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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:46 pm    Post subject: New server on order. Reply with quote

It has cost a whopping £8,625.00, so if anyone still feels like donating  

The new server will be placed in the UK, creating an opportunity for us to geolocate forums according to main audience.
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Great news!

Please put me on a UK server
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Bit early for requests  

It will be a week or two before delivery and then it will need putting in the datacenter.

It is also very important that we get the configuration polished, it will have a lot of different things happening at the server end, and these things are always 100x more difficult to change than to get right in the first place.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great news.

Beans and chips for tea for a while, eh?  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was indeed a painful sum of money, but our last server buying round was three years ago, and times move on.

Spending the money demonstrates our commitment to the service, it would be easy to say that the forums are running perfectly fast (as indeed they are) and we don't need to commit further, but I'd rather we took the opportunity to revamp using the new server to free up completely the older servers for a complete re-install.
It will leave us set for possibilities we cannon entertain right now.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spec? Does that include colo costs?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colocation is on top.

2 x  Intel Xeon X5550 Processor (2.66GHz, 8M Cache, 6.40 GT/s QPI, Turbo, HT), 1333MHz
48gb RAM
6 hard drives in a RAID 10 configuration

are the highlights. The X5550 processors are pretty special It would be a fair approximation to say the new server has close to the welly of all three main forum servers put together.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Colocation is on top.

2 x  Intel Xeon X5550 Processor (2.66GHz, 8M Cache, 6.40 GT/s QPI, Turbo, HT), 1333MHz
48gb RAM
6 hard drives in a RAID 10 configuration

are the highlights. The X5550 processors are pretty special It would be a fair approximation to say the new server has close to the welly of all three main forum servers put together.


my head exploded with awesome. I was thinking "£9k for a server, wtf." expecting you to say like "8gb ram". lmao.

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The price does include 5years of Dell 4 hour call out. Expensive but I think it is short changing people to gamble against it. We have similar on all three other servers and have not used it once   but all the same...
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I think that no matter how good a site is, it's worthless if the site isn't reliable.

Who cares if you have an awesome site that you can only actually get to once in a while?

Going for the reliability and the support for it is a great choice  

Somewhat makes me want to move back to your servers :P
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zudane wrote:
I think that no matter how good a site is, it's worthless if the site isn't reliable.

Who cares if you have an awesome site that you can only actually get to once in a while?

Going for the reliability and the support for it is a great choice  

Somewhat makes me want to move back to your servers :P


Works both ways, what use is reliability if the site sucks?

A big part of it is network choice as well, but I think Admin has that done well, I rarely (if ever) see problems with this place

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The network has been good where we are and was selected partially on those grounds.

The new UK datacenter boasts very good connectivity as well. Time will I guess tell.

Things are only ever as good as the weakest link, but in our case I think we can rest assured that it won't be the raw server power that lets us down.

I guess all told we will have spent £30,000 ($50,000) on hardware in less than 4 years, all whilst not smothering the forums with adverts or otherwise trying to pester people for money via spam emails or some of the other tricks companies get up to.

What you won't see in the next month is us telling people donate money and you can get on the new and fastest server!
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What you won't see in the next month is us telling people donate money and you can get on the new and fastest server!


*puts wallet away* oh... well then >_>
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admin (no pm's please) wrote:
What you won't see in the next month is us telling people donate money and you can get on the new and fastest server!


*puts wallet away* oh... well then >_>




Even though this would be effective, there is something to be said about this. Great Service and respect for users. This is all very good and I too was blown away by the specifications. Great Job.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To keep people in touch with what's going on here's a quick report.

The new server is still more than a week away from delivery. But there is quite a bit going on.

First off a 48gb server is actually a bit of a lemon by default   Some things at a server level don't really scale that well, in fact even our current main servers with 16gb on board are not being utilized as well as they might be

This is where "virtualisation" comes in, we will be using XenServer to turn one big server into perhaps 6 or more smaller ones, each working at a more sensible scale. A working "forums server image" has already been created and is being honed further.

Next off we need to put forums on the new server. We already move forums around servers to balance load, but till now phpbb3 moving has not been tried on live forums and people with forums on their own domains have never been moved. So those procedures are being worked on. We will also need to shift the domain name server somewhere. We need to be able to shift any type of forum or domain as the aim is to rapidly clear down the Zaphod server and ship it to the UK.

We should then be able to work the same virtualisation magic on Zaphod and house it along side the new server. That will give us two big UK servers and two big US (just got a phone call and I won the lottery) servers, the future of the US ones will be up for debate and will depend a lot on network speeds, in the UK accessing the US servers has been fine, and if that is true in reverse then we may end up all in the UK, but I am hoping that if we have a clear option then we should be able to negotiate our US costs downwards.

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