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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Don't make your site too slow for new visitors!  Reply with quote

http://www.websiteoptimization.co...url=http://forum.myfreeforum.org/

Note that on a Modem even the support forum is going to take more than 12 seconds to load first time.
But I have seen some forums today with humongous graphics We keep the image quotas on the template low for a reason and we would probably be doing everyone a favour if we lowered them more! People will not sit around for minutes waiting for a site to load.

Make sure you use gif/png or much preferably jpg graphics, and optimise your graphics here:

http://www.gifworks.com/cgi-bin/g...;amp;startcolors=10&site=

Your prospective members will appreciate it, and for that matter so will our servers
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you think a potential page load time of almost a minute is good, then I suggest you look at a clock for a minute and see just how long that is. People will not wait that long.

I am currently trying to reduce the support forum page size and we are less than a quarter of your page size!
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okay then thanks

i will try and make the page load quicker
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well our index page keeps inside 30kb now Down from 37kb! A 20% speed increase the people seeing the site for the first time.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

would it be better if we took that banner from underneath the main logo down (my forum is in my sig) - would it make a big difference or a small one

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As part of this exercise I have made our main sites 30%-40% smaller, it will be interesting to see if this effects the number people signing on.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They need to run their test on their own site.
first time my computer crash,
Next time I clicked the link couldn't find server.
3 rd the charm, took longer then 10 seconds to load and it still didn't load.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the reading for my site, is it good or average. Knowing my luck its bad.

http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/wso.php

Sorry still don't know how to take screen shots.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

link does not return data for your site.
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How do you run the test on your own forum?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.websiteoptimization.co...nalyze/wso.php?url=FORUM_URL_HERE

Replace 'FORUM_URL_HERE' with the link to your website, e.g. http://forum.myfreeforum.org
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

admin (no pm's please) wrote:
link does not return data for your site.


Sorry Admin, i can't get the link to work so i will just copy and paste it.



Spoiler:

URL: http://ultimatechatterboxforum.myfastforum.org/index.php
Title: ultimatechatterboxforum.myfastforum.org :: Index
Date: Report run on Thu Apr 5 08:20:55CDT2007

Diagnosis
Global Statistics
Total HTTP Requests: 28
Total Size: 106887 bytes

Object Size Totals
Object type Size (bytes) Download @ 56K (seconds) Download @ T1 (seconds)
HTML: 6391 1.47 0.23
HTML Images: 34161 10.21 3.58
CSS Images: 47885 10.54 1.25
Total Images: 82046 20.75 4.83
Javascript: 8371 2.27 0.64
CSS: 10079 2.41 0.45
Multimedia: 0 0.00 0.00
Other: 0 0.00 0.00

External Objects
External Object QTY
Total HTML: 1
Total HTML Images: 17
Total CSS Images: 5
Total Images: 22
Total Scripts: 3
Total CSS imports: 2
Total Frames: 0
Total Iframes: 0

Download Times*
Connection Rate Download Time
14.4K 88.44 seconds
28.8K 47.02 seconds
33.6K 41.10 seconds
56K 26.90 seconds
ISDN 128K 12.12 seconds
T1 1.44Mbps 6.17 seconds

*Note that these download times are based on the full connection rate for ISDN and T1 connections. Modem connections (56Kbps or less) are corrected by a packet loss factor of 0.7. All download times include delays due to round-trip latency with an average of 0.2 seconds per object. With 28 total objects for this page, that computes to a total lag time due to latency of 5.6 seconds. Note also that this download time calculation does not take into account delays due to XHTML parsing and rendering.

Page Objects
QTY SIZE# TYPE URL
2 23299 CSS IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...rboxforum2/images/background3.gif
2 16221 CSS IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...erboxforum2/images/background.gif
1 15658 IMG http://www.topsiteguide.com/reg.a...op100&account=42358&ban=D
1 9706 CSS http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...myfs_ultimatechatterboxforum2.css
1 7747 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...atterboxforum2/images/roy3mi1.gif
5 6505 CSS IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...rboxforum2/images/background2.gif
1 6391 HTML http://ultimatechatterboxforum.myfastforum.org/index.php
4 3496 SCRIPT http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js
1 2948 SCRIPT http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my..._ultimatechatterboxforum2/fade.js
1 1927 SCRIPT http://ultimatechatterboxforum.myfastforum.org/portal_clock.js
2 1607 IMG http://www.google.com/logos/Logo_25wht.gif
11 1274 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...erboxforum2/images/folder_big.gif
1 1119 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...rboxforum2/images/folder_lock.gif
1 1115 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...erboxforum2/images/folder_new.gif
1 1114 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...hatterboxforum2/images/folder.gif
2 944 CSS IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...tterboxforum2/images/cellpic1.gif
1 916 CSS IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...tterboxforum2/images/cellpic3.gif
1 889 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...erboxforum2/images/whosonline.gif
11 882 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...rum2/images/icon_latest_reply.gif
1 373 CSS http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...timatechatterboxforum2/formIE.css
1 366 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...um2/images/icon_mini_register.gif
1 366 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...oxforum2/images/icon_mini_faq.gif
1 364 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...rum2/images/icon_mini_message.gif
1 361 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...orum2/images/icon_mini_search.gif
1 360 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...rum2/images/icon_mini_profile.gif
1 350 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...orum2/images/icon_mini_groups.gif
1 349 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...rum2/images/icon_mini_members.gif
1 240 IMG http://ultimatechatterboxforum.my...forum2/images/icon_mini_login.gif
28 ^ 106887* Total (^unique objects)

# Congratulations. This site is using HTTP compression, otherwise called content encoding using gzip. The sizes reported here are for compressed content sent from the server to the client.

* CSS alternate stylesheets may be referenced in the HTML but are not actually downloaded until they are needed and are therefore not included in the total page size.

Analysis and Recommendations
TOTAL_HTML - Congratulations, the total number of HTML files on this page (including the main HTML file) is 1 which most browsers can multithread. Minimizing HTTP requests is key for web site optimization.
TOTAL_OBJECTS - Warning! The total number of objects on this page is 28 - consider reducing this to a more reasonable number. Combine, refine, and optimize your external objects. Replace graphic rollovers with CSS rollovers to speed display and minimize HTTP requests.
TOTAL_IMAGES - Warning! The total number of images on this page is 22 , consider reducing this to a more reasonable number. Combine, refine, and optimize your graphics. Replace graphic rollovers with CSS rollovers to speed display and minimize HTTP requests.
TOTAL_CSS - Congratulations, the total number of external CSS files on this page is 2 . Because external CSS files must be in the HEAD of your HTML document, they must load first before any BODY content displays. Although they are cached, CSS files slow down the initial display of your page.
TOTAL_SIZE - Warning! The total size of this page is 106887 bytes, which will load in 26.90 seconds on a 56Kbps modem. Consider reducing total page size to less than 30K to achieve sub eight second response times on 56K connections. Pages over 100K exceed most attention thresholds at 56Kbps, even with feedback. Consider contacting us about our optimization services.
TOTAL_SCRIPT - Caution. The total number of external script files on this page is 3 , consider reducing this to one or two. Combine, refine, and optimize your external script files. Ideally you should have one (or even embed scripts for high-traffic pages) on your pages.
HTML_SIZE - Congratulations, the total size of this HTML file is 6391 bytes, which less than 20K. Assuming that you specify the HEIGHT and WIDTH of your images, this size allows your page to display content in well under 8 seconds, the average time users are willing to wait for a page to display without feedback.
IMAGES_SIZE - Warning! The total size of your images is 82046 bytes, which is over 30K. Consider optimizing your images for size, combining them, and replacing graphic rollovers with CSS.
SCRIPT_SIZE - Warning! The total size of external your scripts is 8371 bytes, which is over 8K. Consider optimizing your scripts for size, combining them, and using compression where appropriate for any scripts placed in the HEAD of your documents.
CSS_SIZE - Warning! The total size of your external CSS is 10079 bytes, which is over 8K. Consider optimizing your CSS for size by eliminating whitespace, using shorthand notation, and combining multiple CSS files where appropriate.
MULTIM_SIZE - Congratulations, the total size of all your external multimedia files is 0 bytes, which is less than 4K.



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Heres for my site (not my forum, just my website):



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